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Korbinian von Obazda19:24:11 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Yes it indeed should be a bit more serious again
KV
Korbinian von Obazda19:24:25 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Even when a little fun sometimes is good for the mood
JR
Jimmy RUssle19:27:06 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I agree totally. I don't think that we should be focused 100% on financial discussions— we all know each other and sometime we may go off topic, but poking fun at other countries cricket teams is taking it too far. Besides everyone knows South Africa are the best cricketers and it's not even close.
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Júlio20:15:53 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
@ttabbaa,any news about blockchain life forum,in St. Petersburg?
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Jiri21:07:31 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://www.cryptoglobe.com/latest/2018/11/spanish-bank-bbva-issues-150m-loan-using-ethereum/
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Dolce22:02:02 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
EVERYDAY I'M HODLIN
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:03:33 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Should I buy now?
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:04:13 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Still waiting to make a very large purchase of JNT but fear of a pirce drop is bloody terrifying
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Dolce22:05:56 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
Still waiting to make a very large purchase of JNT but fear of a pirce drop is bloody terrifying
Buy, HODL, Profit
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:09:09 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I was in hold mentality for a long time
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Jimmy RUssle22:10:25 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Naturally I want to accumulate while the price is low, but I recently made a large purchase and now I am seeing the value evaporate. And I will will not speak of my large purchases in february
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:14:04 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
thedolceguy
Buy, HODL, Profit
you told me two more years of bear market! If we repeat 2014 we are all in trouble!
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER22:40:30 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I buy and HODL. I am confident in the team that by EOY we will be very pleased
KT
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daysandbox_bot22:42:42 - 09 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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Skija Holle02:47:24 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
"It seems" ? If you arrived 4 days ago, it could be ... otherwise, you would be exhausted from "it seems". I leave a link ( https://techcrunch.com/2017/11/22/with-ethereum-wallets-under-constant-attack-jibrel-network-decided-to-build-their-own/?guccounter=1 ) with information , overflowing with vehemence, from ONE YEAR ago. Because a year ago he made sure that Jwallet and JCash were LAUNCHED. All the limits of a reasonable wait have been exceeded. Last week, retail collaborators were going to arrive at JCash ... and as far as I know, nothing at all ... nor the past, nor if they arrive ... and the currency in a couple of second-rate exchanges suffering, in their heritage and encouragement, the whims of any whale ... and without having FACTS to cling to, just like a week, two, three months or six. The community has more than supported the support for the project. Enough to enter here and find something more than messages overflowing with good "intentions" and "sensations" ... that relegate us to the same practical point: feeling manipulated and despised. With nothing less than a year of distortion in the timmings, a minimally consistent response from within should provide much more than a few "exciting" WORDS each weekfor a sympathetic community that very little can complain about.. Undoubtedly those who entered strong with Jibrel 7 times more expensive and taking their main developments as facts, they should make a huge grace and represent a huge consolation. "It seems" ...well...is better to close the mouth...but, coldly, we deserve infinitely MORE from within. Enough is enough, guys !
I'm sorry but I'm not sure what your point is.
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER03:26:39 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
skijaholle
I'm sorry but I'm not sure what your point is.
He who is angry is he who does not HODL
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER03:26:43 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Enough said
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER03:27:05 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If everyone would HODL the world would be a much better place
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Pops03:31:41 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
RichieJib
@ttabbaa make me admin Talal so I can delete the scammer posts quickly
+1
CM
charles michael04:17:09 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Inbox me for account management,teaching you how to invest and make awesome profit...
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Bird Person04:20:26 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Inbox me for scam detection and prevention...
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER04:21:14 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DrDecagon
Inbox me for scam detection and prevention...
pm sent
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER04:21:18 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
charlesmichael7
Inbox me for account management,teaching you how to invest and make awesome profit...
Not u
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Bird Person04:26:11 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
rastabrap
pm sent
Thank you Sir. It is good to help a fellow Jntleman navigate the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.
JR
Jimmy RUssle04:27:15 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
never trust anyone with two first names it is SCAM
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER04:28:06 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DrDecagon
Thank you Sir. It is good to help a fellow Jntleman navigate the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.
Glad to do my partings in this crypto field
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER04:28:09 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
never trust anyone with two first names it is SCAM
Kek
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Bird Person04:29:22 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
never trust anyone with two first names it is SCAM
That is rule #3, Mr RUssle. A very astute observation!
JR
Jimmy RUssle04:29:39 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
acutally the pic is jeff besos—— might be legit
JR
Jimmy RUssle04:29:47 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
charlesmichael7
Inbox me for account management,teaching you how to invest and make awesome profit...
PM SENT
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER04:34:56 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
PM SENT
Watch out he wil scam you!
JR
Jimmy RUssle04:36:44 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Filthy P*j**t,
***** in the street
, all day runs a scam,
on telegram,
but can't trick the NEET
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER05:15:59 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Friendly reminder
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Channel_Bot06:45:53 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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Pheten
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Begone with you
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER13:44:50 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Don't be like him guys
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER13:44:57 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Or like him
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER13:45:08 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The time now is to HODL
M
Myssifree14:39:04 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
rastabrap
The time now is to HODL
If you could just hold the "shut the fuck up!", it would be great. Your messages give nothing to the community, but lost time reading your shit...
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER14:49:55 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
missyfree
If you could just hold the "shut the fuck up!", it would be great. Your messages give nothing to the community, but lost time reading your shit...
This is why Hans left
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER14:49:59 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
No good man
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER14:50:07 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Someone way worse than me will come
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER14:50:27 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
It will be terrible for the community I tell u
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER14:51:50 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
missyfree
If you could just hold the "shut the fuck up!", it would be great. Your messages give nothing to the community, but lost time reading your shit...
You just have to HODL bro. If you HODL you won't be this angry
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER14:52:53 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
rastabrap
He who is angry is he who does not HODL
@missyfree
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER14:53:08 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Very sad
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Channel_Bot14:58:30 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Lost wallet( I have 346 btc there.
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daysandbox_bot14:58:31 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Removed msg from __Chris Wilbanks__. Reason: new user + forwarded
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Ismael15:20:07 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Ffs
M
MB16:28:24 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
What happened on kucoin?
M
MB16:28:35 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Looks like a big buy
KV
Korbinian von Obazda16:29:02 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
Looks like a big buy
Seems like a smart person if so
T
Tim16:38:51 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
rastabrap
You just have to HODL bro. If you HODL you won't be this angry
Actually agree with him. You contribute nothing and flood the Telegram. It's annoying. Just relax and enjoy the ride.
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER16:40:49 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cnumartyr
Actually agree with him. You contribute nothing and flood the Telegram. It's annoying. Just relax and enjoy the ride.
If you do not HODL please don't @ me
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Tim16:41:32 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
rastabrap
If you do not HODL please don't @ me
I've been HODLing and buying since ICO. You're a broken record
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER16:42:14 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cnumartyr
I've been HODLing and buying since ICO. You're a broken record
OK then keep on HODLing you are doing great
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XYZ16:45:27 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
cheerleading is tolerated but boring...
JR
Jimmy RUssle16:48:28 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
thedolceguy
Buy, HODL, Profit
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DIDN'T I BUY YESTERDAY
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JD16:55:48 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH WHY DIDN'T I BUY YESTERDAY
You were possibly waiting for a lower dip?
JR
Jimmy RUssle16:56:05 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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Ismael16:56:52 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Lol blocking ppl don't filter their msgs?
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Ismael16:57:25 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Doesn't *
JR
Jimmy RUssle16:58:17 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
we don't need to block people—- reason will ultimately prevail
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Ismael16:58:49 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Can't be asked to read any more hodl bs
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:00:08 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
fair point but our friend benchod is just having a giggle— if you want a higher level of discussion the change starts with you!
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C17:00:49 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
rastabrap
If you do not HODL please don't @ me
What would it take for you to stop this incessant hodl rant? Dude, enough.
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:02:40 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Everyone here telling me to stop with the HODL sold early
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:02:42 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I told u guys
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:02:47 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
This train won't stop
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:02:56 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
You will have to buy higher than what you sold
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:02:57 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Sorry
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C17:03:05 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
No, everyone is trying to tell you politely that you're really annoying
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:03:16 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Conor_Jerrell
No, everyone is trying to tell you politely that you're really annoying
I told u to not sell low
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:03:22 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Now you pay the consequences
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:03:25 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Sad
B
BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:03:44 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
And get mad at me
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C17:03:45 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
🤦♂️
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:04:20 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
This is a 4chan organised fud attempt
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C17:05:12 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Aren't there any admins here to control this crap?
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:05:30 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Conor_Jerrell
Aren't there any admins here to control this crap?
For the past week nobody tells me anything
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:05:39 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Now the price goes up 15% and everybody gets mad at me
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C17:05:42 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
You've worn everyone out
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:05:43 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Too obvious
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:05:48 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Go away fudsters
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C17:06:37 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
What are you talking about? You're delusional. This isn't about price, it's about coming in here to see progress and all everyone gets to read is your inane messages about you, your cousin and hodling. You're damaging this channel.
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:07:35 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Conor_Jerrell
What are you talking about? You're delusional. This isn't about price, it's about coming in here to see progress and all everyone gets to read is your inane messages about you, your cousin and hodling. You're damaging this channel.
Wrong! I bring positivity in the crypto sphere. If you are so bothered by the word HODL then I will change it to DONT SODL
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C17:08:00 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
@admins you really need to address this if you want a productive channel
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:08:23 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Conor_Jerrell
@admins you really need to address this if you want a productive channel
FUD
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:08:35 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
3 people come today
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:08:39 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
And say to me to stop talking
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BENCHOD BLOODY BLENDER17:08:45 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Very sad
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C17:10:13 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
You probably need to spend a little more time on self reflection if you think that's fud
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:12:09 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Anyway guys I FOMO'd in this morning... made a big buy on Kucoin
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Tim17:24:44 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
rastabrap
And say to me to stop talking
Because you're annoying. I have the same JNT I've had for months and I'm not selling it til I can be a liquidity provider. I dont even know, or care, what the price is right now
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Tim17:25:14 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Repeatedly saying HODL does nothing.
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Channel_Bot17:35:10 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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XYZ18:03:20 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cnumartyr
Repeatedly saying HODL does nothing.
+1000
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Chad18:33:41 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
jibrel used to be one of my most promising what is the reason for FUD.
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Adrian Toth18:35:40 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I agree, someone ban this imbecile "just hodl good sirs" spammer already
R
Richie18:35:55 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Moregnan
I agree, someone ban this imbecile "just hodl good sirs" spammer already
Hahahaha
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Richie18:36:09 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I must say he encourages me to hodl sirs
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Mario18:46:16 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The only one who encourages me to hodl is Sir Barack Hussein Obama!
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Richie18:54:53 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Moregnan
I agree, someone ban this imbecile "just hodl good sirs" spammer already
Hes gone now any way
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Richie18:55:11 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
In the process of killing himself rn
KV
Korbinian von Obazda18:57:42 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
True words
JR
Jimmy RUssle18:59:48 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I need liquidity
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daysandbox_bot19:37:42 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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JD19:38:58 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wicji
The only one who encourages me to hodl is Sir Barack Hussein Obama!
The butcher of Libya?
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ19:39:44 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Let's have a serious conversation on JNT
Ç
Çrypt0 L0rdZ19:40:09 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
What do you guys think it will be worth by 2020?
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Tim19:46:07 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
What do you guys think it will be worth by 2020?
5 to 10 would be amazing. I think by 2020 if the pilots work well it's not too unrealistic
CH
Christian Hu19:46:39 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
What do you guys think it will be worth by 2020?
lol I was expecting something serious 😂
Ç
Çrypt0 L0rdZ19:48:44 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cnumartyr
5 to 10 would be amazing. I think by 2020 if the pilots work well it's not too unrealistic
Ya I think so too. jCash is an auditable Tether alternative. They are also very well connected in the MENA region with pilots with a lot of Central Banks. Very serious project. Not to be taken lightly at all.
Ç
Çrypt0 L0rdZ19:48:56 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
To the moon!
Ç
Çrypt0 L0rdZ19:51:17 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I am just joking. This is a very serious project. Let's get serious in here
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Adrian Toth19:54:08 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
jnt being worth more than 1 dollar literally defeats its purpose though , its in the whitepaper too
H
Howard19:55:54 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Moregnan
jnt being worth more than 1 dollar literally defeats its purpose though , its in the whitepaper too
...
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Tim19:56:47 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Moregnan
jnt being worth more than 1 dollar literally defeats its purpose though , its in the whitepaper too
Such terrible pasta
JR
Jimmy RUssle20:20:09 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
Ya I think so too. jCash is an auditable Tether alternative. They are also very well connected in the MENA region with pilots with a lot of Central Banks. Very serious project. Not to be taken lightly at all.
it's not really a tether alternative IMP
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ20:21:14 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
it's not really a tether alternative IMP
*auditable* tether alternative
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ20:21:17 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Much better than Tether
Ç
Çrypt0 L0rdZ20:21:28 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
With on chain proof of solvency
JR
Jimmy RUssle20:28:17 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
but it's not on any exchanges.... are you telling me the general public (who don't hold JNT) are going to pay withdrawal fees to transfer their holdings into Jwallet and fill out KYC?
JR
Jimmy RUssle20:28:44 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
especially when audited stable coins are now available on other exchanges?
Ç
Çrypt0 L0rdZ21:08:42 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I am sure the team has already a plan for that. Either way regulations are going to come and I can see the Jcash platform being competitor to Coinbase
Ç
Çrypt0 L0rdZ21:12:25 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Seems like the HODL guy got banned 😂😂😂
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Myssifree21:16:12 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
Seems like the HODL guy got banned 😂😂😂
Yes, good job mates!
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:18:57 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
I am sure the team has already a plan for that. Either way regulations are going to come and I can see the Jcash platform being competitor to Coinbase
agree 100%. I think in the long term it's probably the right play
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:19:10 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I just object to calling it a tether replacement because it does a whole lot more than that
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ21:24:01 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
I just object to calling it a tether replacement because it does a whole lot more than that
Do tell your take on it sir
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Christian Hu22:08:37 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
but it's not on any exchanges.... are you telling me the general public (who don't hold JNT) are going to pay withdrawal fees to transfer their holdings into Jwallet and fill out KYC?
the plan is to have the wallet work as a platform for all products and also as crypto-fiat gateway
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:09:23 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yes sir
CH
Christian Hu22:09:31 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jcash is more of an accounting unit than a peoduct
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:09:55 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
but I don't think people with a vested interest in JNT will be willing to be withdrawal fees from other exchanges in order to use it
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:10:32 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
but I think it has a far better use case as a remittance service than something like RIpple
CH
Christian Hu22:10:56 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
no, the customers will only use Jwallet and most likely will not even come in contact with JNT
CH
Christian Hu22:11:12 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
maybe even not know about it
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:11:15 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
read my comment again you seem to have misundertood it
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:11:24 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
opps nm
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:11:36 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I seemed to have mistyped it meant to say 'without a vested interest"
CH
Christian Hu22:11:45 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
👍🏻
CH
Christian Hu22:11:53 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
i think we are on the same page
CH
Christian Hu22:12:14 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
To me it’s interesting to see from a banking perspective
CH
Christian Hu22:12:26 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
JNT serves as reserve money
CH
Christian Hu22:12:33 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
and there is no fed
CH
Christian Hu22:13:35 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
basically anyone could act as a bank and give out loans in Jcash
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:13:58 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Right, which is why it doesn't really makes sense to market JNT for anything, or push for exchange listing for JNT except for more liquidity (which should be solved by a full suite of products anyway). I personally hope for an agresssive marekting push for Jcash products
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:14:20 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
not sure if I follow you on the loan front do you care to elaborate?
CH
Christian Hu22:14:30 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yeah me too
CH
Christian Hu22:15:15 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
well you know how many folks think that banks take in deposits and hands that money out as loans, right?
CH
Christian Hu22:15:36 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
in reality, that is not what is happening though
CH
Christian Hu22:15:58 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
look at a banks balance sheet when it gives out a loan
CH
Christian Hu22:16:34 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
+loans on the left, +deposit customer on the right
CH
Christian Hu22:16:47 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
so they create money out of thin air
CH
Christian Hu22:17:42 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
only when the customer withdraws money to pay somebody at bank B the bank will need reserves to transfer to bank B
CH
Christian Hu22:18:38 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
again the balance sheet: -reserves on th left, -deposits customer on the right
CH
Christian Hu22:18:50 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
here the deposit would be in Jcash
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:18:57 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
right a required reserve ratio
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Christian Hu22:19:00 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
the reserves would be JNT
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Jimmy RUssle22:19:18 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
they only need 10% in reserve in the US
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Christian Hu22:19:46 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
so if somebody gives out a loan in Jcash (Jbonds?) they need to get JNT to cover for liquidity
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Christian Hu22:20:11 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
and crypto exchanges then function as an interbank market
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Christian Hu22:20:33 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
but there is no Federal reserve bank to provide liquidity
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Christian Hu22:21:40 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
which means that the JNT market will kinda function like the Eurodollar market (i.e. dollars held by banks who do not have access to the Fed, e.g. european banks)
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Christian Hu22:22:25 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
they only need 10% in reserve in the US
yeah but there are no rules for crypto yet
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Christian Hu22:23:13 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
you can give out loans in Jcash as much as you want - as long as you don’t do it onchain
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Christian Hu22:23:47 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I lost you, haven’t I? 😅
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Christian Hu22:25:39 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
well the in reality the price for money is interest. And if you have a lot of demand for short term money but dont have access to the fed, you need to pay whatever it takes
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Christian Hu22:27:34 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
if Jproducts will ever be used like fiat currencies today, JNT will be worth a shit ton if the market ever dries up and someone needs to get short term liquidity
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Jimmy RUssle22:42:14 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yeah you lost me somewher along the line
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Christian Hu22:45:38 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
yeah you lost me somewher along the line
sorry about that
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Christian Hu22:47:31 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
if you're into how banking and money works I can recommend this free course on coursera:
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Christian Hu22:47:35 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://www.class-central.com/course/coursera-economics-of-money-and-banking-part-one-1051
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Christian Hu22:48:25 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
by week 4 you will see how jibrel fits in the global banking system
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Christian Hu22:49:57 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
what the team is building is basically a Fed of Feds with JNT as primary reserves
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Jimmy RUssle22:53:35 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I have a degree in Econ from the university of florida
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Christian Hu22:57:39 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
👍🏻
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Jimmy RUssle22:58:13 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
anyway give me a loan
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Christian Hu22:59:05 - 10 Nov 2018 [UTC]
promise to pay it back?
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ00:41:42 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Let's get serious guys. This is a very serious group
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Denis M01:17:40 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Who else comfy know they've made it
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Jimmy RUssle01:27:06 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
not comfy yet
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ01:27:48 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Hey man delete this. This is a place where serious conversations take place
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ01:28:06 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
It's not a place for spam
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ01:28:08 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cmon
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Dale Wallace01:28:31 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I won't feel completely comfy untill they bring out liquidity pools.
JR
Jimmy RUssle01:35:23 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
any products being released would give me muhc better feelings
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Dolce02:44:38 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I I hodl
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Chuck Spinelli03:55:09 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Dale Wallace
yeah It can be depressing sometimes spending so much time focused on a bear market, I'm just trying to accumulatte every last JNT i can before SEED.
SEED is liquidity only
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ05:10:21 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I like this group because it is a very serious grouo
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ05:12:33 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I think by 2019 the price can be 2$ / JNT
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ05:12:44 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
This is a very serious project
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Adrian Toth09:14:55 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
is this the new ironic spam we will see daily now? "this is a srs group and a very srs project, srs discussion only good sirs, stay srs"
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MB09:22:27 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I'm super cereal
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Denis M09:58:27 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Moregnan
is this the new ironic spam we will see daily now? "this is a srs group and a very srs project, srs discussion only good sirs, stay srs"
Yup
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Michel10:18:31 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Moregnan
is this the new ironic spam we will see daily now? "this is a srs group and a very srs project, srs discussion only good sirs, stay srs"
why so bitter
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Richie10:22:00 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
JNT wont move until insiders that have sold get some info that will make them want to rebuild their positions.
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Richie10:22:40 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We know that Bithumb or Bitrex or both are stalling on listing
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Richie10:23:14 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We need meaningful progress like the completion of one of the many projects that jibrel are working on
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Richie10:23:26 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
How can the wallet take this long?
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Erik11:41:21 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
RichieJib
How can the wallet take this long?
Almost a year since ICO and no beta version of the wallet is unacceptable.
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Michel11:46:11 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Damn you two need to get off ur high horses
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MB11:48:48 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Silvester_77
Almost a year since ICO and no beta version of the wallet is unacceptable.
He is right actually. One year for some legal approvals, not even a wallet or jcash
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MB11:49:01 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
That's disappointing
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Richie11:49:32 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Also where's the CM? Jibrel needs Bitpromo.io
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Erik11:51:26 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Michelbakk
Damn you two need to get off ur high horses
Why? Do you want us to join the rest and say all is wonderful? Again, the wallet was already in alpha during ICO. A year later where is Beta?
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Michel11:52:14 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Silvester_77
Why? Do you want us to join the rest and say all is wonderful? Again, the wallet was already in alpha during ICO. A year later where is Beta?
No im not telling u to say everything is wonderful, but u cant just asume they r sitting around doing nothing
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Michel11:52:41 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We have quarterly updates and the team is always here answering questions
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Richie11:53:25 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Michelbakk
No im not telling u to say everything is wonderful, but u cant just asume they r sitting around doing nothing
Explain how it is acceptable to not produce a beta version of the wallet in 1 year.
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Erik11:53:36 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Michelbakk
No im not telling u to say everything is wonderful, but u cant just asume they r sitting around doing nothing
I'm not saying that. Just saying that after year Beta wallet is still not there. For me that is a red flag and worrisome.
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Erik11:54:00 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
RichieJib
Explain how it is acceptable to fail to produce a beta version of the wallet in 1 year.
+1
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Michel11:54:27 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Silvester_77
I'm not saying that. Just saying that after year Beta wallet is still not there. For me that is a red flag and worrisome.
then it is up to you what you decide to do from this point on if you take it as a red flag
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Michel11:54:42 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
crypto is really not what it was this time last year
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MB11:56:04 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
This project is like the red flag central
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Michel11:56:10 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Have you gone through the Q3 update? Have you seen the level of detail they go to and the developments they are making
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MB11:56:17 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
That's why we crashed so hard
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Erik11:56:34 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I would love to store my JNT for once and for all in the Jwallet but it's still not there. That's is disappointing to say the least.
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Michel11:56:49 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Silvester_77
I would love to store my JNT for once and for all in the Jwallet but it's still not there. That's is disappointing to say the least.
Thats a you kinda problem
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Michel11:57:06 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://medium.com/@jibrelnetwork/jibrel-project-update-q3-2018-8443c6e7ef07
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MB11:57:34 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
All I want to see right now is just a simple announcement of someone using jcash
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MB11:57:48 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
It can be some shitty exchange or smth
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MB11:58:10 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
But jibrel has been just words and NDAs for too long
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Erik11:58:13 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Michelbakk
Thats a you kinda problem
Ok thank you man. Much appreciated. No room for critical note here. I'm off. Have a great Sunday.
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Michel11:58:39 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Silvester_77
Ok thank you man. Much appreciated. No room for critical note here. I'm off. Have a great Sunday.
Thats not a critical note but sure
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Michel11:59:21 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
But jibrel has been just words and NDAs for too long
Do you want them to tell you what they r doing and breach the NDA therefore negating the point to begin with?
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Bk 13 [$JNT]12:50:39 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
All I want to see right now is just a simple announcement of someone using jcash
Kambio ins t enough? Jibrel is moving slow but is moving big.... Big partners which require greater preparation ...but is there the big money....
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Bk 13 [$JNT]12:51:06 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Michelbakk
Have you gone through the Q3 update? Have you seen the level of detail they go to and the developments they are making
+1
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MB12:51:12 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Bk_1313
Kambio ins t enough? Jibrel is moving slow but is moving big.... Big partners which require greater preparation ...but is there the big money....
Kambio is a startup
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MB12:51:51 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Still words
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Erik13:19:31 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jwallet beta, when??
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C13:22:15 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Moregnan
is this the new ironic spam we will see daily now? "this is a srs group and a very srs project, srs discussion only good sirs, stay srs"
It's the clown everyone asked to stop saying hodl all the time who changed his name and now write this instead.
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XYZ14:12:03 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
RichieJib
How can the wallet take this long?
I made me the same question long time ago. IMHO, I think the exit shot is the first jcash pilot. Big amount of money and it will bring us the colateral developments (jwallet, jnode, block explorer, etc)
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Jimmy RUssle14:42:32 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I share the concerns of others. The original roadmap had the Dao going live in q4. As of right now this project is still just a whitepaper and 3 updates that amounted to "we're working on it'. I think we're all hoping they succeed but the pace of techincal development is harrowing. When they announced the Jcash soft launch, it felt like the ball was finally startingt to roll, but it's been almost 3 months and we're still being told 'it's right around the corner'.
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ14:51:12 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I am a very serious investor and I am glad on how serious is telegram is. I think if we just HODL we will be very pleasantly surprised by the end of the year.
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Richie14:52:17 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
I share the concerns of others. The original roadmap had the Dao going live in q4. As of right now this project is still just a whitepaper and 3 updates that amounted to "we're working on it'. I think we're all hoping they succeed but the pace of techincal development is harrowing. When they announced the Jcash soft launch, it felt like the ball was finally startingt to roll, but it's been almost 3 months and we're still being told 'it's right around the corner'.
Oh yeah the DAO. I forgot all about it tbh
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JD15:25:06 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
I share the concerns of others. The original roadmap had the Dao going live in q4. As of right now this project is still just a whitepaper and 3 updates that amounted to "we're working on it'. I think we're all hoping they succeed but the pace of techincal development is harrowing. When they announced the Jcash soft launch, it felt like the ball was finally startingt to roll, but it's been almost 3 months and we're still being told 'it's right around the corner'.
Since when does programming/software work ever make deadlines? Just look at the programming for advanced military hardware like the F35. They are running way behind schedule. It's common place when it comes to coding, so just relax.
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Jimmy RUssle15:28:40 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
But the US military has the benefit of having had delivered some products in the past. We can reasonably expect that they'll devlier something in the future. With Jibrel, we haven't gotten anything yet, and the closest t hing we have to a garauntee is that the team's tokens are vested so they also have an incentive for the price to rise in the future. All I'm saying is that I'll feel much more confident when products start getting delivered. This space moves very fast and competitors are emerging on all sides.
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TsarBuig16:10:56 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
But the US military has the benefit of having had delivered some products in the past. We can reasonably expect that they'll devlier something in the future. With Jibrel, we haven't gotten anything yet, and the closest t hing we have to a garauntee is that the team's tokens are vested so they also have an incentive for the price to rise in the future. All I'm saying is that I'll feel much more confident when products start getting delivered. This space moves very fast and competitors are emerging on all sides.
I fully agree with you Jimmy... this is becoming to be seriously problematic. After month of waiting we still don't have anything concrete. You summarized it very well...
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Jimmy RUssle16:25:46 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
They did come out with revised timelines,.... but everyday I wake up, hoping today is the day that a tangible product will roll out. We can have all the NDA's and partnerships in the world, but nothing assails fears like actual developments
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Jimmy RUssle16:36:17 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
And,. to be frank, if they'd have delivered the wallet 9 months ago I'd still have the same concerns.
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Igor Zubeldia17:15:44 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Can you imagine this project happening something so common one of Binance's reports, for example? https://info.binance.com/en/research There you have ... 3 projects ... The least, 50% above on the market price (Can you imagine this project happening something so common one of Binance's reports, for example? https://info.binance.com/en/research There you have ... 3 projects ... The least, 50% above, if not + 300%, on the market price (ICO price, we do not even talk anymore). To a project that announced ONE YEAR JWallet & JCash simply gave fire on all four sides in the first paragraph. And the best thing is that you try to get here and civilize a situation at this level of noncompliance, and losses of 80% market output ... and you find the same hermeticism and indifference, DNAs, private repositories, "I wish", etc etc ... and 3 cheap multinicks saying HODL. And you feel even more shit and more manipulated.
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Dolce17:17:17 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
What did I do today you ask?
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Dolce17:17:55 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I hodled didn't sodl
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Jimmy RUssle17:20:50 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
the market is what it is, can't really be upset that the price is down significantly, because eveything else is too. But the lack of development certainly isn't helping. I just wished they'd adopt the chainlink marketing modeling and drop breadcrumbs anonymously on 4chinz... It's so much fun and keeps the community engaged
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:21:16 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
Can you imagine this project happening something so common one of Binance's reports, for example? https://info.binance.com/en/research There you have ... 3 projects ... The least, 50% above, if not + 300%, on the market price (ICO price, we do not even talk anymore). To a project that announced ONE YEAR JWallet & JCash simply gave fire on all four sides in the first paragraph. And the best thing is that you try to get here and civilize a situation at this level of noncompliance, and losses of 80% market output ... and you find the same hermeticism and indifference, DNAs, private repositories, "I wish", etc etc ... and 3 cheap multinicks saying HODL. And you feel even more shit and more manipulated. And you turn around, like a fool. I guess someone will make it laugh. ☺️
I seriously think you will be seriously surprised by the end of the year. As a serious investor I am very pleased with the team's progress so far. Serious partnerships are being made compared to other projects. Consider seriously what you are saying right now. Just HODL. When we moon we will make it
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TsarBuig17:22:39 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
I seriously think you will be seriously surprised by the end of the year. As a serious investor I am very pleased with the team's progress so far. Serious partnerships are being made compared to other projects. Consider seriously what you are saying right now. Just HODL. When we moon we will make it
What "serious partnerships" are you talking about? Can you list it here please?
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Igor Zubeldia17:22:43 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
the market is what it is, can't really be upset that the price is down significantly, because eveything else is too. But the lack of development certainly isn't helping. I just wished they'd adopt the chainlink marketing modeling and drop breadcrumbs anonymously on 4chinz... It's so much fun and keeps the community engaged
the market is what it is, really can not be upset because the price dropped significantly, because everything else is too. But the lack of development is certainly not helping. I just wanted them to adopt the chain link marketing model and drop crumbs anonymously in 4chinz ... It's very fun and keeps the community engaged. It will be in your portfolio ... there are already good projects earning money ... or at least, keeping it in difficult times ... but of course ... you have to meet roadmap ... that, to begin with.
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:23:16 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
TsarBuig
What "serious partnerships" are you talking about? Can you list it here please?
https://www.difc.ae/newsroom/news/dfsa-expands-fintech-innovation-testing-programme/
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:23:20 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
SEED 200M
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:24:13 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If you guys don't know the importance of these partnerships I cannot help you
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:24:40 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
May I remind you we have Central Bank piloting with Jibrel
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:24:47 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MULIPLE OF MULTIPLES
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TsarBuig17:24:55 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
https://www.zawya.com/mena/en/press-releases/story/Jibrel_Network_announces_strategic_partnership_with_the_SEED_Group-ZAWYA20180311065811/
Yeah, yeah, in March! 7 months ago. Did you see anything concrete since them ?
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:25:14 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Seriously guys cmon. Let's stop fudding. The price won't tank.
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:25:18 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
It will be in your portfolio ... there are already good projects earning money ... or at least, keeping it in difficult times ... but of course ... you have to meet roadmap ... that, to begin with.
I can overlook a roadmap that was too ambitious. What I worry about is that they haven't put anything out yet. When we get a single working proudct it will make a huge difference. Right now we're in the time between the whitepaper (which has changed substantially) and actual development. I mean, I can barely dress myself so I'm not really in a position to criticize, but it does feel like development is dragging.
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:25:56 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I think uncertainty is pretty well founded at this point in time.
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:26:51 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
"Just hold I think everything will be fine"doesn't really sway those people who make decisions based on empriicism.
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TsarBuig17:27:10 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
Seriously guys cmon. Let's stop fudding. The price won't tank.
Stop saying that people that have some doubts are "fudding"
We both invested in this project and what we want is price to RISE, not drop. But we have serious concerns about development capability of the team
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:27:50 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
TsarBuig
Stop saying that people that have some doubts are "fudding"
We both invested in this project and what we want is price to RISE, not drop. But we have serious concerns about development capability of the team
Having doubts is pretty much the definition of 'fear, uncertainty, and doubt"
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TsarBuig17:28:24 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
Having doubts is pretty much the definition of 'fear, uncertainty, and doubt"
Only the last letter of it ;)
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:30:01 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We are losing focus here guys. Jibrel is not just another blockchain project. It is the future of Banking. Let's focus a bit OK?
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:30:02 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I mean I have fear and uncertainty as well. I hope the project does well and hope they deliver, but personally my fear and uncertainty are pretty high. Promises mean a lot less to me than auditable code does. And while I understand the necessity of private reops, we don't have a lot of assurances that work is being done.
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:30:27 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We are focusing on the small things and not realizing the big picture. Cmon
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:30:35 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Nah let's have a reasoned discussion about strengths, weaknesses, opportunities, and threats.
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:31:24 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Plugging your ears and making wishes doesn't make viable products appear on the market.
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TsarBuig17:31:43 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
We are losing focus here guys. Jibrel is not just another blockchain project. It is the future of Banking. Let's focus a bit OK?
Humpfff, stop with this "Jibrel is different and much bigger" bull...
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:32:05 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cmon guys. Blockchain 2020 you guys forgot about that?
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:32:09 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Sigh
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:32:47 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAE8ZMctegnGaG19A7A
This is a serious group. Get your spam elsewher
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:33:02 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
Cmon guys. Blockchain 2020 you guys forgot about that?
it's not going to matter if all we have in 2020 is our hopes and dreams
IZ
Igor Zubeldia17:33:54 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If it is not a question of RISE. What a YEAR ago it was asserted that JCash and JWallet were LAUNCHED. That the photos of the mltinicks and vines repeated 10 times have already seen them all. That the timmings exceed everything I've seen in any other project for years. And in addition, you get to Telegram, you try a way of communicating ... they come out saying that in a week some "minor client" arrives ... and after the emanates and after two weeks ... it is, again, that no.
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:35:56 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
and this https://twitter.com/jibrelnetwork/status/999735507037933569?lang=en
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:36:13 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
It's been a big corner IMO
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TsarBuig17:37:24 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
If it is not a question of RISE. What a YEAR ago it was asserted that JCash and JWallet were LAUNCHED. That the photos of the mltinicks and videos repeated 10 times have already seen them all. That the timmings exceed everything I've seen in any other project for years. And in addition, you get to Telegram, you try a way of communicating ... they come out saying that in a week some "minor client" arrives ... and after the emanates and after two weeks ... it is, again, that no.
Yep... Very worrying 😢
IZ
Igor Zubeldia17:38:27 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
well, ciao. Good afternoon to evy
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:40:03 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I'm still holding out and hopingthey'll release some products this quarter. That's literally all that matters.
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:43:23 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cmon guys don't fall for the FUD of some telegram individuals. Listen to the smart people
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:43:36 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
What Jibrel is doing is truly the future
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:45:27 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Tell me how many other projects have this?
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Jimmy RUssle17:45:33 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
Cmon guys don't fall for the FUD of some telegram individuals. Listen to the smart people
YOOU BLOODY
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:45:34 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
PIOLOTS
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Richie17:46:08 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
YOOU BLOODY
There's no need for language like this
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:46:28 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
With central banks may I remind you
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:47:12 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Only 1 announcement and it's enough for us to go to the moon and make it. The time now is to HODL. I truly believe it
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Jimmy RUssle17:48:09 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
They can put Ben 'Shalom' Bernanke on as an adviosr and it still means nothing unless products are eventually deveoped.
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Jimmy RUssle17:48:45 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We've got nothing other than 'soon' but as Igor pointed out, they were saying 'soon' a year ago
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Tobi17:52:45 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Crypto lordz, would you mind leaving the channel? This is not supposed to be a 4chan meme TG.
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:53:50 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
As a long term investor I am very pleased on how the project has been developing. I am not losing focus on the small things and keeping my focus on the big picture. I see everything here as organised FUD. Enough said
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:54:13 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wrkns
Crypto lordz, would you mind leaving the channel? This is not supposed to be a 4chan meme TG.
Excuse me? I am serious
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Jimmy RUssle17:54:26 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wrkns
Crypto lordz, would you mind leaving the channel? This is not supposed to be a 4chan meme TG.
I find his voice to be a much needed voice of reason in these days of uncertainty., Just because you do not like someone's opinion does not mean it is any less valid than your own.
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Tobi17:55:29 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
It's not a opinion anymore, it's more like I shove my meme moon boy statements down your throut. No one will take this fomo talk serious
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Jimmy RUssle17:56:48 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wrkns
It's not a opinion anymore, it's more like I shove my meme moon boy statements down your throut. No one will take this fomo talk serious
We must debate with reason and logic. IF you find his statements untrue, please debunk them empircally. I'm disagreeing with him, but I do not ask him to leave the discussion. I find that robust debate will help us in our search for the ultimate, universal truths.
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:57:36 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wrkns
It's not a opinion anymore, it's more like I shove my meme moon boy statements down your throut. No one will take this fomo talk serious
I'm sorry, but never have I once said BUY BUY BUY. I just say the time now is to HODL. What I will not tolerate though is this organised FUD to keep the price low
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:57:39 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
My time here is done
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:57:43 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
See you tomorrow
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Jimmy RUssle17:57:46 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I find that all this talk of organized fud/moonbois/4chan trolls/russian bots is only used by people who disagree but lack the rhetorical tools to debate effectively
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Jimmy RUssle17:58:39 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
With the notable exception fo actual bots adertising pump groups etc.
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Neuthor17:58:47 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
I can overlook a roadmap that was too ambitious. What I worry about is that they haven't put anything out yet. When we get a single working proudct it will make a huge difference. Right now we're in the time between the whitepaper (which has changed substantially) and actual development. I mean, I can barely dress myself so I'm not really in a position to criticize, but it does feel like development is dragging.
Your points are basically valid, but the delay of the development has already been announced in the Q2 update. That's why the timelines have been adjusted and so far no product is behind schedule. It's been known for a while, so I can't understand why you're criticizing the development delays right now. Also, the Jcash Alpha was released significantly earlier than the targeted Q3 release so that there's no reason for saying "they haven't put anything out yet." But I think it's fair to say that we are all a bit disappointed and would have liked to see faster progress, the team included. But things take as long as they do, especially when you're a start-up and you build-up your own development teams. That's the pill to take if you buy early.
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Jimmy RUssle18:01:42 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Neuthor
Your points are basically valid, but the delay of the development has already been announced in the Q2 update. That's why the timelines have been adjusted and so far no product is behind schedule. It's been known for a while, so I can't understand why you're criticizing the development delays right now. Also, the Jcash Alpha was released significantly earlier than the targeted Q3 release so that there's no reason for saying "they haven't put anything out yet." But I think it's fair to say that we are all a bit disappointed and would have liked to see faster progress, the team included. But things take as long as they do, especially when you're a start-up and you build-up your own development teams. That's the pill to take if you buy early.
Of course I agree and understand most of these statements. However things like " the Jcash Alpha was released significantly earlier than the targeted Q3 release so that there's no reason for saying "they haven't put anything out yet." " is only nominally true. Nobody can use JCash right now. If we had a github or something to see work being done it'd be a nonissue. But for the time being I don't think completely ignoring it is particularly useful for anyone.
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Neuthor18:08:29 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
That is simply not true. Anyone living in the countries where Jcash is offered can register and use the service. There's also some Jcash in circulation.
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Jimmy RUssle18:12:18 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Neuthor
That is simply not true. Anyone living in the countries where Jcash is offered can register and use the service. There's also some Jcash in circulation.
have you personally used Jcash or do you know anyone that has?
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Ismael18:12:40 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
It's been a big corner IMO
Lmao true
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XYZ18:21:33 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Neuthor
That is simply not true. Anyone living in the countries where Jcash is offered can register and use the service. There's also some Jcash in circulation.
Use for... what?
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Jimmy RUssle18:24:25 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
XYZ991
Use for... what?
currently there's rougly $1k USD i circulation. The assertion that people are actually using it is basically indefensible.
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Christian Hu18:55:51 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Neuthor
That is simply not true. Anyone living in the countries where Jcash is offered can register and use the service. There's also some Jcash in circulation.
+1
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Christian Hu18:56:18 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Development projects just take a while, especially in banking where you do not get second chances
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Christian Hu18:56:38 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
even the current roadmap looks very ambitious tbh
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Christian Hu18:57:35 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
doing all that while hiring and integrating staff? doing PR? further evolve the business idea? Holy Shit!
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Christian Hu18:58:52 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I built up a company to a certain size and holy shit all that stuff is incredibly time draining and you feel like you dont do any real work at all to keep the balls in the air
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Christian Hu18:59:49 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
so with all valid criticism in mind I say: give em time to figure it out
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Christian Hu19:00:44 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
there is no use for just a wallet or just Jcash if you can’t do anything with it, and the doing depends mainly on central bank approval and other regulatory stuff
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Neuthor19:21:20 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
currently there's rougly $1k USD i circulation. The assertion that people are actually using it is basically indefensible.
The point is that, contrary to what you claim, the Jcash Alpha has been launched and that it is possible to use it.
You cannot invalidate the argument by questioning the extent to which Jcash is used. It is obvious that some have tried Jcash for testing purposes, what's fine at this point. A small user base at the beginning has the advantage that you can iron out minor bugs and optimize the product based on feedback before you start promoting it. After all, you want the user experience to be thoroughly positive. Therefore, no marketing efforts have been made yet. According to the published October update "the marketing and PR sprint is likely to kick-off towards the end of Q4 ’18". That goes along with the Chinese Community Response, released in September: "Marketing efforts for Jcash will be targeted to the jurisdictions the product is rolled out in. There is a comprehensive plan for Jcash customer acquisition with referral agreements, digital and traditional advertisements, airdrops and joint initiatives with institutions planning to use Jcash".
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Jimmy RUssle19:24:39 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Neuthor
The point is that, contrary to what you claim, the Jcash Alpha has been launched and that it is possible to use it.
You cannot invalidate the argument by questioning the extent to which Jcash is used. It is obvious that some have tried Jcash for testing purposes, what's fine at this point. A small user base at the beginning has the advantage that you can iron out minor bugs and optimize the product based on feedback before you start promoting it. After all, you want the user experience to be thoroughly positive. Therefore, no marketing efforts have been made yet. According to the published October update "the marketing and PR sprint is likely to kick-off towards the end of Q4 ’18". That goes along with the Chinese Community Response, released in September: "Marketing efforts for Jcash will be targeted to the jurisdictions the product is rolled out in. There is a comprehensive plan for Jcash customer acquisition with referral agreements, digital and traditional advertisements, airdrops and joint initiatives with institutions planning to use Jcash".
I stand by my statement. I've made it clear that I'm still actively purchasing JNT, but eventualy they're going to have to roll out working products. Jcash has been 'live' for 3 months now, but I've yet to come across any member of the public actually being able to use it.
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Channel_Bot19:28:14 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAE8ZMcty6f12K58j5w
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Neuthor20:04:07 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Unfortunately I cannot count myself among the few users of Jcash. I signed up for Jcash a month ago and haven't received anything back yet, which is probably because I registered with my ID card instead of a passport. But I'm not in a hurry either and just wait until identity cards are approved as well. I confidently assume that they will also be accepted in the future.
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Channel_Bot22:29:25 - 11 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEegdUIhLlUN58HzxA
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fan bai02:32:40 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Can't buy bargains.
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Denis M03:41:37 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If the Tapscott thinks this is a groovy project, then who am I to argue
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Alygel06:24:59 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
- t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEkFeteJjHDevaW4Rw
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Kush06:41:37 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Alygel
- t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEkFeteJjHDevaW4Rw
@ttabbaa
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Damon07:19:16 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Our Father who art in heaven, Changpeng Zhao be thy name. Thy listing come. Thy pump be done, on IDEX as it is on Binance. Give us this day our daily volume; and forgive us our FUD, as we forgive those who FUD against us; and lead us not into bottom selling, but deliver us from losses. For the exchange listings, the pumps, and the glory are yours, now and for ever. Amen
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Damon07:19:21 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
amen
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Max07:21:52 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Amen, Damon. 🙏
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Max07:21:58 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
haha, very creative
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Bird Person08:24:55 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Praise be.
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Dolce08:28:53 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DrDecagon
Praise be.
What is bird person?
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Denis M10:35:44 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
thedolceguy
What is bird person?
Micheal Keaton
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Dolce10:45:32 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Dale Wallace
Oh he is from Simpsons family
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Dolce10:45:39 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
😅
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shantun singh11:27:23 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
hello , i want use tether same as like erc20
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shantun singh11:27:39 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
how can i generate transit address of main address
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shantun singh11:27:45 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
can anyone help me
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Bob11:44:21 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Go dduck rak and dduck ssang
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ12:32:06 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
dominopiz
Our Father who art in heaven, Changpeng Zhao be thy name. Thy listing come. Thy pump be done, on IDEX as it is on Binance. Give us this day our daily volume; and forgive us our FUD, as we forgive those who FUD against us; and lead us not into bottom selling, but deliver us from losses. For the exchange listings, the pumps, and the glory are yours, now and for ever. Amen
Amen
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Channel_Bot12:40:35 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
+ t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEkFetdudyQZYFoWxw
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AJ13:05:41 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
@ttabbaa are you looking forward to other projects in crypto space for the next round of KYC onboarding ?
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AJ13:06:00 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Maybe SSI?
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AJ13:09:12 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Also how much of an impact is JNT bringing in the EU?
You have covered Middle east really well :D
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Dolce13:37:37 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
dominopiz
Our Father who art in heaven, Changpeng Zhao be thy name. Thy listing come. Thy pump be done, on IDEX as it is on Binance. Give us this day our daily volume; and forgive us our FUD, as we forgive those who FUD against us; and lead us not into bottom selling, but deliver us from losses. For the exchange listings, the pumps, and the glory are yours, now and for ever. Amen
Amen brother
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Myssifree15:04:00 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://bitcoinist.com/stablecoins-cryptocurrency-coinjar/
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Myssifree15:04:30 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Good for JNT
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TsarBuig15:29:22 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
missyfree
Good for JNT
Why ?? We missed the train and have nothing to propose 😂😂
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MB17:24:59 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Can we take a moment to discuss the level of centralisation with jcash? Can the team access/move funds of users? With the recent FUD around teams controlling tokens like funfair/prl/coss, what can we expect from jcash and jnt?
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MB17:25:46 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Also can the team blacklist an already white listed address with kyc, blocking the user access to jcash?
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:25:54 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
Can we take a moment to discuss the level of centralisation with jcash? Can the team access/move funds of users? With the recent FUD around teams controlling tokens like funfair/prl/coss, what can we expect from jcash and jnt?
U know what happened with the Coin rail hack right?
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:26:01 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Fundus were saifu
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MB17:28:03 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I'm not worried about right now, but are there plans to make the network users independent from the team and offer real ownership of stable coins?
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:29:16 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
I'm not worried about right now, but are there plans to make the network users independent from the team and offer real ownership of stable coins?
What do you mean by real ownership?
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:29:38 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
This is by far the most serious project I've ever invested in, and I'm a very serious investor
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MB17:31:54 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OyyyLmao
What do you mean by real ownership?
Like if I own jusd, backed by the jnt listed in the contract, there is no way anyone can take/delete/whatever to make me not have my jusd, and no way for it to lose the jnt backing by people withdrawing from the contract
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:32:31 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
Like if I own jusd, backed by the jnt listed in the contract, there is no way anyone can take/delete/whatever to make me not have my jusd, and no way for it to lose the jnt backing by people withdrawing from the contract
Not with Jusd
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:32:42 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Other products maybe, in the future
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ17:33:31 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The seriousness of this group is amazing. Good job guys. I'm very proud
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Ismael18:03:53 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Regulations will always have control with kyc so you'll never be free if you use a regulated service
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Channel_Bot18:38:29 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
`Inside information from a friend on the SEC team, about Bitcoin ETF`
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XYZ19:57:19 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://cointelegraph.com/news/swiss-crypto-firm-gets-islamic-finance-certification-for-sharia-compliant-stablecoin
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Christian Hu20:01:49 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wow even the article itself says that a certification like that is unnecessary to be sharia compliant
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Norman20:17:42 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
^ virus, do not click that file
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Peter Hill20:58:00 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/CryptoNerdsio/status/1062053308397961216
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Peter Hill20:58:00 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I found this on twitter. Currently trading at bittrex but currently considering to switch to binance. They have lower fees and more coins to trade. Anyone has experience with Binance? Is it any good? tnx
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Christian Hu21:11:58 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
pls delete this admins
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Dale Wallace22:01:30 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Peter Hill
I found this on twitter. Currently trading at bittrex but currently considering to switch to binance. They have lower fees and more coins to trade. Anyone has experience with Binance? Is it any good? tnx
Binance is the exchane I trade on, no problems with it so far.
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Denis M23:55:12 - 12 Nov 2018 [UTC]
вен пин
Should find a way to block sharing file types if that's possible or make admin only sharing
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Denis M00:47:49 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
@tarekayna
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Michelle Sydnor01:11:15 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Hi
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ01:12:20 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Hi Sir
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Jimmy RUssle01:27:17 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
Can we take a moment to discuss the level of centralisation with jcash? Can the team access/move funds of users? With the recent FUD around teams controlling tokens like funfair/prl/coss, what can we expect from jcash and jnt?
There is no way to avoid centralization with cryptofiat. I don't see anyway around it but to trust the entity that is in charge of tokenization. Given that you can only transfer Jcash between users that are KYC compliant, I wouldn't worry to much about it. If you're in crypto purely for anarchist reason (nothing wrong witih that IMO) Jibrel probably isn't for you. We'll be relying on trusting Jibrel and the banking authorities to ensure that no foul play takes place.
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ02:49:48 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Damn I feel comfy in JNT
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Çrypt0 L0rdZ02:50:33 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I am Jhodling and ain't even worried
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Ali Abou Haidar13:54:50 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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MB14:01:30 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Are we going below 8 cents?
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Korbinian von Obazda14:39:09 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
It's just slow moves with the general Market, we never know but nothing to really worry Imo
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Erik15:40:04 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
KorbiC
It's just slow moves with the general Market, we never know but nothing to really worry Imo
When the price goes down always blaming the market. Maybe it's because no product has rolled out yet. Jwallet ' just around the corner ' was stated in May. It's now 6 months later.
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Korbinian von Obazda15:50:51 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Silvester_77
When the price goes down always blaming the market. Maybe it's because no product has rolled out yet. Jwallet ' just around the corner ' was stated in May. It's now 6 months later.
Or you follow the Market and see everything goes up and down and not much really rises
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Erik15:55:08 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jnt is certainly not going up..
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Michel16:27:52 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Silvester_77
Jnt is certainly not going up..
What are you still doing here then?
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Erik16:30:14 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Michelbakk
What are you still doing here then?
Waiting until the products roll out. Once again a hostile reply because of a critical note.
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Mario16:41:53 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Team has to deliver ... Most people already left. Seems like view remaining ones are a bunch of deluded fanboy kids... No project can survive on that. ... I honestly had a lot of patience with jnt because of the good concept. Right now I am starting to feel like this may have been biggest money pit in my life.
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Mario16:44:19 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Also please stop blaming the market. The market is absolutely fine. The projects are the problem. Very view are to be taken serious. And I am not sure if jnt is on of them.
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Michel16:46:28 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Poor you victim
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Mario16:46:31 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
How can it take so long to produce a wallet. I mean it's nothing that hasn't been done before in shorter time periods. And the team had really enormous funds for a startup... Why can't you deliver anything except for licenses and empty promises.
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Mario16:47:14 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
That's really not a good performance the whole team delivered.
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Howard16:47:28 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
most people have not left
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Howard16:47:46 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
top 500 holders looks consistent
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Mario16:49:32 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Look at the price and you can see that many left. Top 500 are most probably the teams own wallets and angel investors.
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Howard16:49:37 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I think a lot of the development is behind the scenes
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Howard16:49:49 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
you're assuming
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Howard16:50:45 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
because of the low liquidity, minor sells will result in price drop
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Mario16:50:47 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Only idiots assume everything is fine without any evidence or incident pointing in that direction. Sorry to be rude...
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Howard16:51:12 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
well calling someone an idiot is rude
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Howard16:51:32 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
it's fine to have discussion but let's not resort to name calling
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Mario16:51:52 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I know it's rude but it has to be said.
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Howard16:52:07 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
that's your opinion
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Howard16:52:57 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
the fact is you have no idea what it takes to run a crypto project
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Howard16:53:18 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
and without all the facts you have no basis to call those project a failure
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Howard16:53:27 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
ignorant and impatient, sorry if I'm rude
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Mario16:56:11 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
How would you know. I am in the startup investment branch for quite a long time. Unfortunately also in the crypto branch... The stuff that is happening here is absolutely insane. Teams don't give any fuck about the people that gave them fucking millions. I invested worth of a small goddam house in that project. So don't give me your rude and ingnoramt shit.
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Howard16:57:05 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
woo look at Mr big shot trying to prove his validity in crypto
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Howard16:57:16 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
blah blah I'm done talking to you
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Howard16:57:20 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
good luck
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Mario16:57:37 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
16 mio. ... Tell me which startup gets that much money...
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Tim17:02:24 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wicji
Look at the price and you can see that many left. Top 500 are most probably mostly the teams own wallets and angel investors.
So the informed people who know what's going on behind the scenes?
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Tim17:04:03 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Also with the amount of hostility and venom you have around the project how have you not just left and sold it all? Write it off as a loss
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Mario17:04:12 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cnumartyr
So the informed people who know what's going on behind the scenes?
No the team that obviously wants the project to continue and people who have either contracted not to sell or made a longterm investment and are definitely not going to sell this low like myself.
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Tim17:05:34 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wicji
No the team that obviously wants the project to continue and people who have either contracted not to sell or made a longterm investment and are definitely not going to sell this low like myself.
We also have zero investor rights with crypto. I just dont see how complaining in TG helps or does anything other than letting you vent your frustration
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Mario17:06:25 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cnumartyr
Also with the amount of hostility and venom you have around the project how have you not just left and sold it all? Write it off as a loss
I want to see progress not to sell. I want factual reaffirmation through the team and through output. Not some anonymous crypto guys hodl bs.
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Tim17:06:53 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wicji
I want to see progress not to sell. I want factual reaffirmation through the team and through output. Not some anonymous crypto guys hodl bs.
We all do.
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Mario17:07:07 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cnumartyr
We also have zero investor rights with crypto. I just dont see how complaining in TG helps or does anything other than letting you vent your frustration
Venting my frustration is indeed my primary purpose right now.
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Mario17:07:44 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Not a whole lot I can do except complaining.
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Tim17:07:58 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wicji
Venting my frustration is indeed my primary purpose right now.
I dont have a small house in the project. Just a couple cars. I'd like to see it achieve its purpose and I di worry they missed the first mover window
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Tim17:08:12 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Didn't even capitalize on the recent stable coin trend with any marketing
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Mario17:09:26 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Well they said build first... But for that approach they definitely take a whole lot of time to create such a simple thing like a wallet.
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Mario17:09:49 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
That's really nothing to special.
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Mario17:09:55 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Or new.
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Mario17:10:06 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Or difficult.
LM
lem mup18:05:25 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Cnumartyr
I dont have a small house in the project. Just a couple cars. I'd like to see it achieve its purpose and I di worry they missed the first mover window
They are primarily focusing on middle east, where they indeed are a fist mover. Whether that turns out a mistake or a stroke of genius is yet to be seen.
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firekid18:56:31 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
btw complaining in Telegram should help, because the team should listen to what the people that supported them want
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firekid18:56:51 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
as long as are reasonable complaints
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Erik19:42:56 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If you guys think that the fact that no products have rolled out yet and that in May there was a tweet which said 'Jwallet just around the corner' is complaining then you're delusional because they are facts.
JR
Jimmy RUssle20:12:23 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
A lot of people take any concern very personally. It's a sign that they're too emotionally attached. I mean, I'm emotionally attached, but some people really take it to far. The best thing to quell uncertainty is certainty, which can take the form of making concrete deadlines and hitting them, or delivering great products by surpise.. I'd wager that everyone here is down at least 50% on their investment, and in my case it's 90%. To hear people say 'everything is fine no cause for concern' irk me.
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XYZ20:15:20 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
that's not a community project. This is a B2B project and we won't have any insight until business partners allow that. It's a question of time. It's a question of faith... 🚀
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Jimmy RUssle20:22:16 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
XYZ991
that's not a community project. This is a B2B project and we won't have any insight until business partners allow that. It's a question of time. It's a question of faith... 🚀
I I was in charge I'd ignore bagholders completlely., Except for Kim Ok. that dude was based.
KV
Korbinian von Obazda21:13:50 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
XYZ991
that's not a community project. This is a B2B project and we won't have any insight until business partners allow that. It's a question of time. It's a question of faith... 🚀
My thought as well
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firekid21:17:03 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Your thought is wrong. No matter what news the team will release and no matter the price, Jibrel did not act responsible to their investors / coin holders or w/e you call them
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firekid21:17:40 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Its fine using an excuse that we are not investors and we do not need to learn news or anything , but this logic is flawed
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firekid21:17:51 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
and if you want a good example look at binance
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firekid21:18:17 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
it is a company that is 6 months younger than Jibrel
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firekid21:18:51 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Binance 6 months ago was already number 1 on its field, Jibrel, however, keeps us in the dark
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firekid21:19:37 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
and no matter the community managers or the PR specialists, investors or coinholders or even supporters of the project, do not receive the attention we deserve
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firekid21:20:43 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
sure we are not legally investors, yet we made the project a reality by buying coins and that deserves some respect
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Talal Tabbaa21:26:25 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
Binance 6 months ago was already number 1 on its field, Jibrel, however, keeps us in the dark
Do you really think Binance is 6 months old?
The binance brand might be new, but their team have been working on the project / exchange engine for years!!!
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firekid21:26:50 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Ofc its not new , yet the marketing is new
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Talal Tabbaa21:27:23 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
sure we are not legally investors, yet we made the project a reality by buying coins and that deserves some respect
We are obviously committed to our token holders, and will continue to push on technical and business development
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firekid21:28:10 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
And I agree with your work first market later strategy, but you ignored the community with your actions
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firekid21:28:27 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
And frankly the twitter posts are making most people feel bad
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firekid21:28:47 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Its the same posts over and over again
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firekid21:29:27 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
In times like these , that most token holders are in an permanent anxious state
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firekid21:29:27 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
In times like these , that most token holders are in an permanent anxious state
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Talal Tabbaa21:29:30 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We mainly focused on B2B and will be able to share some of our success during this year
As for B2C, we will be joined by 2 strong marketing team members that will hopefully re-ignite/ grow the community
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firekid21:29:49 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
You should have tried to make them feel better
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Talal Tabbaa21:29:50 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
Its the same posts over and over again
Well noted - i will make sure to relay this message
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firekid21:30:21 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If you were not on telegram replying to people
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firekid21:30:46 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Most of the token holders would have considered the project dead
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firekid21:31:11 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Im just voicing the discomfort btw , nothing more nothing less
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Bk 13 [$JNT]21:31:23 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
And I agree with your work first market later strategy, but you ignored the community with your actions
He being here, a COO,, personally already demonstrates that he does not ignore the community ...
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Talal Tabbaa21:31:31 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
You should have tried to make them feel better
With a lot of our work happening behind the scenes, it takes an element of patience and trust
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firekid21:31:40 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Thats why I said if he was not here
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Bk 13 [$JNT]21:31:44 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
And frankly the twitter posts are making most people feel bad
+1
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Talal Tabbaa21:32:14 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Bk_1313
+1
Will make sure that doesn’t happen again
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Jimmy RUssle21:33:24 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Has the community manager position been filled yet?
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firekid21:33:34 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If you change small things, like twitter posts, reddit posts, some small talk here and there, you will make the holders feel better, while it wont take any of your time of your work
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Bk 13 [$JNT]21:33:55 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
ttabbaa
We mainly focused on B2B and will be able to share some of our success during this year
As for B2C, we will be joined by 2 strong marketing team members that will hopefully re-ignite/ grow the community
Nice, hope we can see some changes befora Q4 end...
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:34:06 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
If you change small things, like twitter posts, reddit posts, some small talk here and there, you will make the holders feel better, while it wont take any of your time of your work
What do you exepect them to do if there are no actual developments? Run lotteries like Vecahin?
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firekid21:34:22 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Btw the reason I stopped paying attention to the chat is because people here were out of control
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Talal Tabbaa21:34:24 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
Im just voicing the discomfort btw , nothing more nothing less
And it’s your right to do so - and it’s our job to take the valid comments and incorporate them into our business
We started doing monthly updates after the community voiced their concerns about quarterly being not enough.. We’ll action valid comments :)
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firekid21:35:16 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Oh I still pay attention to the updates :p just not the community anymore
KV
Korbinian von Obazda21:35:22 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
ttabbaa
And it’s your right to do so - and it’s our job to take the valid comments and incorporate them into our business
We started doing monthly updates after the community voiced their concerns about quarterly being not enough.. We’ll action valid comments :)
The monthly update is a very good thing! Works for me for sure
TT
Talal Tabbaa21:35:47 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
Has the community manager position been filled yet?
Yes - will start end of the month
Marketing hire joined this week as well.. November update will cover business side new-joiners
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firekid21:36:16 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Especially since everytime someone was trying to voice a complain or a make a bad criticism, he would get instantly threatened by ban or he would get insulted by others
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firekid21:37:01 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Its a sad thing that people cant realise that in order to have a good conversation you need to hear 2 different options
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Talal Tabbaa21:37:08 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
firek1d
Especially since everytime someone was trying to voice a complain or a make a bad criticism, he would get instantly threatened by ban or he would get insulted by others
Constructive criticism is always welcome
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firekid21:38:22 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Oh I know it is from your side, but contrary to todays conversation, if someone tried to make a bad criticism albeit true, community by itself would have tried to shut him down
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firekid21:38:30 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Mainly Hans Muller if I remember correctly
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firekid21:38:41 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Not sure what happened with him though
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:41:11 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I think Hans post uner the name Crypt0 L0rdz now
KV
Korbinian von Obazda21:52:34 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
I think Hans post uner the name Crypt0 L0rdz now
Yep
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Howard22:02:11 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
ttabbaa
Constructive criticism is always welcome
thanks Talal for the update and we appreciate your patience when dealing with us
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Phil22:06:01 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
ttabbaa
We are obviously committed to our token holders, and will continue to push on technical and business development
Thanks Talal, statements like these mean a lot! :)
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Phil22:06:20 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I know this team values its holders and will not leave them out to rot
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Phil22:07:02 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
This is important, because legally teams do not owe a lot to holders, so one has to count on the team's ethics and what they are aspiring to be.
JR
Jimmy RUssle22:09:48 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
philboy
Thanks Talal, statements like these mean a lot! :)
Just playing the devil's advocate here, butif he was planning to hang us out to dry he'd still probably say that.
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Phil22:10:29 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
Just playing the devil's advocate here, butif he was planning to hang us out to dry he'd still probably say that.
he'd probably say nothing
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Howard22:11:57 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
Just playing the devil's advocate here, butif he was planning to hang us out to dry he'd still probably say that.
probably. it's blind trust. that's why crypto is the wild wild west
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Howard22:12:17 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
some will make it, some won't.
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Howard22:12:59 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
not everybody who moved to the wild west came out of it rich. but those who did, some got fabulously wealthy
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Howard22:14:45 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I like to believe picking jibrel is comparable to finding gold/oil
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Howard22:14:47 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
haha
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Chasethechaser22:59:23 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Howard
I like to believe picking jibrel is comparable to finding gold/oil
I'm with Howard 😁
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Shangpeng Zhao23:07:26 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Long time
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Howard23:08:01 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
zahoshangpeng
Long time
nice photo
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Shangpeng Zhao23:08:42 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
thank u
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Shangpeng Zhao23:08:51 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I take with the team in Korea
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Howard23:09:15 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
i am jealous lol
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Shangpeng Zhao23:10:01 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Korea love Jibrel
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Shangpeng Zhao23:10:05 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jkrw
S
Shangpeng Zhao23:10:20 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
KOREA POWER
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Howard23:12:53 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
zahoshangpeng
Korea love Jibrel
your name isnt korean, its chinese isnt it?
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Shangpeng Zhao23:14:03 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Howard
your name isnt korean, its chinese isnt it?
no haha it is Binance owner name
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Howard23:14:42 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
zahoshangpeng
no haha it is Binance owner name
haha i see. i thought it was just coincidence.
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융희제23:17:52 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Howard
haha i see. i thought it was just coincidence.
👍
융
융희제23:46:19 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
what happen for a long time? why price so low
융
융희제23:51:36 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
why jibrel reddit has no wiki
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Good23:52:58 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I'd like to take a little more time to watch. jibrell is now a one-year-old company. The delayed wallet will be officially released at the end of the year and will be listed on the world's top U.S. exchange between November and December. (Quarterly Quarterly Report) And at the end of the year, it will release surprising news and information, including the results of its B2B operations. If implemented, jibrel believes it will grow further in 2019.
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Good23:54:44 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Let's not be impatient! Gibrell is a partner of the world's global group, the SEED Group. There must be a reason why a global company has made a partnership with Gibrel.
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Good23:56:22 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
And when the stock exchange is launched in Campio next year, Jcash is used as a key currency.have a partnership
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Good23:57:58 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Isn't this a good idea for next year's growth?Of course, if we continue to do better business, we believe that Ghibrell will continue to have partnerships with global companies.
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Good23:59:15 - 13 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I am a Korean. I'm sorry if you were offended. I hope you don't think it's too bad. Think future-oriented.
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Christian Hu00:29:04 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
ttabbaa
Constructive criticism is always welcome
maybe you could lay out the vision more clearly. that means, what would be the ideal world where Jibrel products are used in 5-10 years?
I know not everyone in here has a background in banking, but afaik JNT needs to act as reserve money in a new system.
I personally have a rather specific question: how are the most essential principles of flexible money supply and discipline being handled in a world of limited tokens? To me it seems using Jibrel is like going back to the gold standard.
Thank you for your thoughts, dm me in case i need to lay them out more clearly
JR
Jimmy RUssle00:34:37 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
HOON0526
I'd like to take a little more time to watch. jibrell is now a one-year-old company. The delayed wallet will be officially released at the end of the year and will be listed on the world's top U.S. exchange between November and December. (Quarterly Quarterly Report) And at the end of the year, it will release surprising news and information, including the results of its B2B operations. If implemented, jibrel believes it will grow further in 2019.
Do you have Jeonse? Or wolsae?
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TsarBuig03:09:18 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
I think Hans post uner the name Crypt0 L0rdz now
No, it’s 2 different people. Crypt0 L0rdz is french (just like me) and I already argued with him in the past
He’s a guy with always the same answers since several months : “don’t miss the big picture“, blablabla...
Nothing compared with Hanz :)
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Richie03:14:09 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
TsarBuig
No, it’s 2 different people. Crypt0 L0rdz is french (just like me) and I already argued with him in the past
He’s a guy with always the same answers since several months : “don’t miss the big picture“, blablabla...
Nothing compared with Hanz :)
He seems like a serious man.
BD
Beijing soros Deng03:14:54 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Will we join 2 strong marketing team members? This is good news !
KV
Korbinian von Obazda04:06:39 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The mysterious search for Hans
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jRunningRabbit06:02:47 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We've been quite busy building!
If you haven't r...
https://www.reddit.com/r/JibrelNetwork/comments/9wrkp4/any_updates/e9n0z47?utm_source=reddit-android
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jRunningRabbit06:03:54 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
This may be an example of engagement from the new marketing hires. Good to see.
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stone w06:29:24 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
moon
SW
stone w06:29:24 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
moon
SW
stone w06:29:28 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
to da moon
SW
stone w06:29:28 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
to da moon
SW
stone w06:29:41 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
will happen soon
SW
stone w06:29:41 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
will happen soon
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Howard06:30:44 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
jRunningRabbit
This may be an example of engagement from the new marketing hires. Good to see.
good point!
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Channel_Bot06:32:34 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
follow t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEkFetcL4bsZEpqvCg
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Beijing soros Deng06:40:07 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Husche
maybe you could lay out the vision more clearly. that means, what would be the ideal world where Jibrel products are used in 5-10 years?
I know not everyone in here has a background in banking, but afaik JNT needs to act as reserve money in a new system.
I personally have a rather specific question: how are the most essential principles of flexible money supply and discipline being handled in a world of limited tokens? To me it seems using Jibrel is like going back to the gold standard.
Thank you for your thoughts, dm me in case i need to lay them out more clearly
The price of JNT will rise when the demand increases, and the virtual currency can be infinitely divided, so it is not a limited token.JNT can become more valuable with the same amount.
BD
Beijing soros Deng06:41:05 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Husche
maybe you could lay out the vision more clearly. that means, what would be the ideal world where Jibrel products are used in 5-10 years?
I know not everyone in here has a background in banking, but afaik JNT needs to act as reserve money in a new system.
I personally have a rather specific question: how are the most essential principles of flexible money supply and discipline being handled in a world of limited tokens? To me it seems using Jibrel is like going back to the gold standard.
Thank you for your thoughts, dm me in case i need to lay them out more clearly
The price of JNT will rise when the demand increases, and the virtual currency can be infinitely divided.JNT can become more valuable with the same amount.
BD
Beijing soros Deng06:41:46 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Husche
maybe you could lay out the vision more clearly. that means, what would be the ideal world where Jibrel products are used in 5-10 years?
I know not everyone in here has a background in banking, but afaik JNT needs to act as reserve money in a new system.
I personally have a rather specific question: how are the most essential principles of flexible money supply and discipline being handled in a world of limited tokens? To me it seems using Jibrel is like going back to the gold standard.
Thank you for your thoughts, dm me in case i need to lay them out more clearly
is in a world of limited tokens but not limited value
CH
Christian Hu06:53:21 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yongruideng
The price of JNT will rise when the demand increases, and the virtual currency can be infinitely divided.JNT can become more valuable with the same amount.
but it is finite, like gold in the Bretton Woods system
BD
Beijing soros Deng06:54:30 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Husche
but it is finite, like gold in the Bretton Woods system
The characteristics of virtual currency are infinitely split, just as the number of bitcoins is limited.
CH
Christian Hu06:54:31 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
if Jcash is to be used like actual fiat money it needs to be somewhat flexible
CH
Christian Hu06:56:13 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yongruideng
The characteristics of virtual currency are infinitely split, just as the number of bitcoins is limited.
hmm not sure if that is the same thing. The same was basically true for gold, yet it didn’t work
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Christian Hu06:57:33 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
at least in times of crisis
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Christian Hu06:58:43 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
we‘ll see :)
BD
Beijing soros Deng07:00:07 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Husche
hmm not sure if that is the same thing. The same was basically true for gold, yet it didn’t work
Jcash is backing by Fiat
BD
Beijing soros Deng07:01:01 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
IJNT is used to provide liquidity in Jcash.
CH
Christian Hu07:01:14 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
for now
BD
Beijing soros Deng07:01:25 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I think that JNT is used to provide liquidity
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MB07:06:05 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yongruideng
I think that JNT is used to provide liquidity
Jnt and liquidity lol
CH
Christian Hu07:09:58 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
question is: when I hand out a lot of loans in Jcash (i.e. create a lot of money) I need to refinance in case my debitors want to withdraw their Jcash from my account and buy something.
Usually I would go 1. to the interbank market and borrow for LIBOR rate (this would be a crypto exchange equivalent here) or 2. repo with the Fed if i am a US bank (not possible in crypto).
The financial crisis has shown that interbank markets can dry up and put tremendousstress on the system. Is there anything we can do to expand money supply then?
CH
Christian Hu07:12:06 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
at least central banks should be able to mint new tokens in case of emergency (i.e. jEUR by ECB)
CH
Christian Hu07:13:17 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
they would have awesome instruments to regulate money supply since they know each banks precise liquidity situation
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Damon08:54:46 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
pray for JNT
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Damon08:54:56 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
🙏
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Damon08:55:07 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
agree theres?
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Myssifree10:24:39 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
IMF calls to "explore state-backed digital currencies"
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Myssifree10:24:41 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://www.imf.org/en/News/Articles/2018/11/13/sp111418-winds-of-change-the-case-for-new-digital-currency
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Good14:17:31 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/JibrelNetwork/status/1062706747037704195?s=19
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Good14:17:42 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://twitter.com/FintechHiveDIFC/status/1062553949222457344?s=19
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Channel_Bot15:11:52 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
>> t.me/joinchat/AAAAAEkFeteAt3zrrO_1LA
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Mario15:40:36 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Bk_1313
He being here, a COO,, personally already demonstrates that he does not ignore the community ...
He's coo because we handed him 16 mio... Otherwise he would just be a regular guy with a tech background like you and me... So don't get overly excited for him to say the same stuff everyone would say in his position absolutely regardless of the real situation.
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Tim16:15:39 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Seen plenty of COO's that got handed 16 mil in crypto and don't converse with the community. They don't really owe us that. JNT has been above board with their communication. Of all the complains I have, that is definitely not a concern.
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Aqua16:21:55 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Major crash is real
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Howard16:27:44 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
total market cap at 194, eth at 183, BTC almost below 6k
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Aqua16:28:44 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Howard
total market cap at 194, eth at 183, BTC almost below 6k
Now it is
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Howard16:28:53 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Aqua
Now it is
lmao
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Howard16:29:08 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
not JNTs fault, just market
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Aqua16:30:21 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
No no no
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Aqua16:30:21 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
No no no
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Howard16:30:56 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
damn i really wish i can hedge with jcash
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Aqua16:33:01 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Risk premium for exchanges using Tether is now greater than 6% (~330$) compared to exchanges using USD.
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Howard16:40:04 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
just when you think it cant go any lower (crypto market in general)
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Korbinian von Obazda17:04:15 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
What is going with the Market again? :D
KV
Korbinian von Obazda17:04:45 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Didn't check news so any reason?
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Dolce17:05:13 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Holding guys
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Dolce17:05:16 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
It's a sport
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Korbinian von Obazda17:07:14 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Yes of course but any reason for dump of BTC?
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Ismael17:08:25 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
All the stop-losses getting triggered
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Korbinian von Obazda17:09:18 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Good possible
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Korbinian von Obazda17:10:19 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
There should be a Medal for everyone surviving the Cryptomarket
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Howard17:25:00 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
KorbiC
There should be a Medal for everyone surviving the Cryptomarket
haha
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융희제17:35:45 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The price of JNT will rise
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융희제17:36:00 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Hans he will come bak
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융희제17:37:21 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jibril has partnership with Campio Ventures, DIFC,SEED , Central bank
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융희제17:37:39 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Will not stay low too long
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MB17:47:28 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yunghi1
Jibril has partnership with Campio Ventures, DIFC,SEED , Central bank
Most cryptos have even better partnerships and look where that got them
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융희제17:48:31 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
Most cryptos have even better partnerships and look where that got them
Yes jibril is much better position
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MB17:49:11 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Looks like the purge is here
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MB17:49:16 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Hold on tight boyz
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Richie17:49:20 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
When will Yazan be releasing the prototype for the new secentralised JSuicide Pact product?
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Korbinian von Obazda17:50:28 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I'm calm and not worried about the price of Jnt, it is just the general Market which is currently slow and a bit annoying
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Korbinian von Obazda17:50:42 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
So in general:
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MB17:50:52 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Slow is a nice word for this disaster
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MB17:50:55 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Lol
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Korbinian von Obazda17:51:46 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Haha
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MB17:54:02 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
At the end of this sad show only the tokens that are used and have real value on the network will survive
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Korbinian von Obazda17:59:50 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
At the end of this sad show only the tokens that are used and have real value on the network will survive
True, it is in a way important that the Market cleans itself.
That's why I research a lot and never buy highly valued shit coins :D
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Mayer18:20:53 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
BTC 6K defence line collapsed.
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Korbinian von Obazda18:25:03 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Yep
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Tarek Ayna18:40:03 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Bad day for crypto
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Tarek Ayna18:40:09 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
How's everyone hanging
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Dim18:51:44 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Withing 5years we will be rich
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Dim18:51:50 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
No problem
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Igor Zubeldia18:56:51 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
@ttabbaa Hello Talal: What is your disposition for the end of the month event at DUbai (Investor day). Do you feel more supported by the work rhythm since summer? Will you present developments / demos, etc? To the extent that you can declare in public, what points do you see strong to raise interested investors? ... at what value do you consider this opportunity? Thank you.
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AJ18:58:46 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
tarekayna
How's everyone hanging
Excited for Fintech Hive Investor Day
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Talal Tabbaa19:04:36 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
@ttabbaa Hello Talal: What is your disposition for the end of the month event at DUbai ? (Investor day). Do you feel more supported by the work rhythm since summer? Will you present developments / demos, etc? To the extent that you can declare in public, what points do you see strong to raise interested investors? ... at what value do you consider this opportunity? Thank you.
Hello Igor Jibrel investor day will include ~400 individuals from the DIFC partners which includes top banks, regulators, funds, legal firms, etc https://fintechhive.difc.ae/partners-backing-us/
We are definitely excited, and we will be sharing developments mainly focused on the Islamic finance side (JCash related). Almost all the banks in the program selected Jibrel (usually start-ups have 2-3 mentors).
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Igor Zubeldia19:09:58 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
@ttabbaa Everything will be fine, Inchah alah. Go hard !
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Chuck Spinelli19:44:50 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Btc 5k wtf
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Igor Zubeldia20:10:15 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
True USD & Paxos, triple green in the middle of the whole fall. I just want to see Jibrel there, doing our thing, fuck!
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Korbinian von Obazda20:24:55 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Well, interesting moves from BTC today
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Ismael20:32:01 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Interesting for sure
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Jimmy RUssle21:51:14 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
thedolceguy
Holding guys
YOU BLOODY YOU TRICKED ME
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융희제23:39:27 - 14 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
YOU BLOODY YOU TRICKED ME
Market is bloody today
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Igor Zubeldia00:05:39 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Aqua
Link,please ?
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Denis M03:38:14 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Almost there boys
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MB06:36:18 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We're gonna be rich
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Dale Wallace06:36:55 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
We're gonna be rich
If you're buying the dip, very rich :).
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MB07:17:36 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
My paycheck comes on 2nd of December. Will I be too late friends?
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Korbinian von Obazda07:17:46 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Maybee
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Channel_Bot11:48:24 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
**Bitcoin will soar to $ 20,000 already Nov 20 2018**
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Dolce12:17:38 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
My paycheck comes on 2nd of December. Will I be too late friends?
@RichieJib member?
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Richie12:25:59 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
thedolceguy
@RichieJib member?
I was waiting for pay cheques to buy at 40 cent though
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Dolce12:26:30 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The times... They are a changin... You know...
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Richie12:28:18 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
They are a joostin
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Jimmy RUssle13:20:12 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
i wonder if motorcycle anon put all his settlement money in at $.50
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Igor Zubeldia13:44:09 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
@ttabbaa It is desperate to enter the Telegram and find this succession of cartoons and children's messages, for God ... 50 for each message that is minimally interesting. The image and frustration are absolutely regrettable. I think there has been talk that there is a communication manager already hired, finally ... please, establish a skillful information channel in btctalk, reddit, etc ... this makes you want to get off the project 99 times out of 100 times that you connect
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Igor Zubeldia15:08:17 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
@ttabbaa ( or another of the team ) : I have been reviewing the white paper and I am unable to define what will be the ways to monetize the JNT token, the requirements to be a liquidity provider ... if the Jnodes involve "staking" in the project and if there are minima for it, etc ... Could I expose the return modes of the JNT Token in the project? (Or provide a specific link where it is already explained). I think it could be of general interest. Thank you.
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Howard15:16:33 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
@ttabbaa ( or another of the team - I personalize by pure ignorance , sorry- ) : I have been reviewing the white paper and I am unable to define what will be the ways to monetize the JNT token, the requirements to be a liquidity provider ... if the Jnodes involve "staking" in the project and if there are minimum for it, etc ... Could I expose the return modes of the JNT Token in the project? (Or provide a specific link where it is already explained). I think it could be of general interest. Thank you.
if you search for jnode in this chat, you'll find the answer. with that said, jNode: enterprise-grade Ethereum access via an easily configurable API.
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Igor Zubeldia15:17:08 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Howard
if you search for jnode in this chat, you'll find the answer. with that said, jNode: enterprise-grade Ethereum access via an easily configurable API.
ty 👌
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Howard15:17:39 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
ty 👌
the only means of return as of now is to be a liquidity provider, i believe 1 million is the min for now.
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Igor Zubeldia15:33:12 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Howard
the only means of return as of now is to be a liquidity provider, i believe 1 million is the min for now.
ty again
I do not know if a price increase would reduce the minimums to be a liquidity provider (or if there is - or is valued in the future - some initiative of "shared access" among token holders, as do several companies with Dash MasterNodes, for example). What kind of returns does it entail, anyway? Do you know them ? (or info published on this about this operation?)
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Howard15:35:11 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
ty again
I do not know if a price increase would reduce the minimums to be a liquidity provider (or if there is - or is valued in the future - some initiative of "shared access" among token holders, as do several companies with Dash MasterNodes, for example). What kind of returns does it entail, anyway? Do you know them ? (or info published on this about this operation?)
its 50 JNT every jcash conversion.
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Igor Zubeldia15:37:42 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
That thought, yes ... but is the same amount for 1J $ that for 1 million J $ ... for example? A fixed rate is not very logical.
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Howard15:38:22 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
That thought, yes ... but is the same amount for 1J $ that for 1 million J $ ... for example? A fixed rate is not very logical.
what is 1J
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Howard15:38:26 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
jnt or jcash
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Igor Zubeldia15:39:16 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
1Jusd or 1 million JUsd, by exemple( JCash )
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Howard15:40:55 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
as far as I know, you need 50 jnt for any conversion
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Howard15:41:19 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
if its not logical take it up with the team
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Howard15:41:35 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
they did mention that 50 was too high and were working on it
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Howard15:41:54 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
hinting that it will be lowered in the future
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Igor Zubeldia15:48:07 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I do not think it's a matter of being high or low ... but of being PROPORTIONAL, as there are many user profiles of JCash and therefore, amounts to convert. For small conversions, indeed, it would be very high ... but for large conversions, imagine that they would "burn" a liquidity provider, which contributes 1 million JNT Tokens in a conversion of 1 million JCash ... for 50 JNT of benefit. It would also be illogical. I guess that's not the way it works ... although yes, let's hope someone from the team explains it to us.
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lem mup19:04:30 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
A dynamic fee following an S-curve would seem reasonable to me.
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Yazan @ Jibrel19:33:39 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
I do not think it's a matter of being high or low ... but of being PROPORTIONAL, as there are many user profiles of JCash and therefore, amounts to convert. For small conversions, indeed, it would be very high ... but for large conversions, imagine that they would "burn" a liquidity provider, which contributes 1 million JNT Tokens in a conversion of 1 million JCash ... for 50 JNT of benefit. It would also be illogical. I guess that's not the way it works ... although yes, let's hope someone from the team explains it to us.
This is actually a correct observation.
There are several ways to do this. What we are effectively trying to achieve are two objectives:
A. Provide stable coins backed by on-chain value (Users)
B. Incentivize people to lock value on-chain in JNT (Providers)
1. Fixed Rate (current implementation) - requires high / enterprise user volumes, but remains compliant
2. Fee (percentage) - facilitates many smaller transactions, which is not what we are after at the moment (e.g. our current minimum is 0.5 ETH, by design while we are testing and perfecting)
3. Premiums - stable coin holders see their value drop every month (i.e. they're paying premiums to the liquidity providers to hold their stable coins, similar to how credit default swaps work)
**The best system is #3**, its how similar financial products work in the real world. But if that is the case, JNT utility token classification is at risk of becoming a security classification, which would've hampered our ability to remain compliant as well as approach exchanges.
We've built it in the most compliant way for now, as we acquire more licenses / more sign-offs, get listed on bigger exchanges, etc. we will re-evaluate how we restructure.
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Channel_Bot19:59:10 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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Howard20:52:44 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Yazan15
This is actually a correct observation.
There are several ways to do this. What we are effectively trying to achieve are two objectives:
A. Provide stable coins backed by on-chain value (Users)
B. Incentivize people to lock value on-chain in JNT (Providers)
This can be implemented in several ways:
1. Fixed Rate (current implementation) - requires high / enterprise user volumes, but remains compliant
2. Fee (percentage) - facilitates many smaller transactions, which is not what we are after at the moment (e.g. our current minimum is 0.5 ETH, by design while we are testing and perfecting)
3. Premiums - stable coin holders see their value drop every month (i.e. they're paying premiums to the liquidity providers to hold their stable coins, similar to how credit default swaps work)
The best system is #3, its how similar financial products work in the real world. But if that is the case, JNT utility token classification is at risk of becoming a security classification, which would've hampered our ability to remain compliant as well as approach exchanges.
We've built it in the most compliant way for now, as we acquire more licenses / more sign-offs, get listed on bigger exchanges, etc. we will re-evaluate how we restructure.
thanks for explaining Yazan!
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Phil21:08:36 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Yazan15
This is actually a correct observation.
There are several ways to do this. What we are effectively trying to achieve are two objectives:
A. Provide stable coins backed by on-chain value (Users)
B. Incentivize people to lock value on-chain in JNT (Providers)
This can be implemented in several ways:
1. Fixed Rate (current implementation) - requires high / enterprise user volumes, but remains compliant
2. Fee (percentage) - facilitates many smaller transactions, which is not what we are after at the moment (e.g. our current minimum is 0.5 ETH, by design while we are testing and perfecting)
3. Premiums - stable coin holders see their value drop every month (i.e. they're paying premiums to the liquidity providers to hold their stable coins, similar to how credit default swaps work)
The best system is #3, its how similar financial products work in the real world. But if that is the case, JNT utility token classification is at risk of becoming a security classification, which would've hampered our ability to remain compliant as well as approach exchanges.
We've built it in the most compliant way for now, as we acquire more licenses / more sign-offs, get listed on bigger exchanges, etc. we will re-evaluate how we restructure.
I have a question. In an equilibrium, token value would be dependent on the utility the token provides. So if Jibrel restructures, token value may be subject to a big change due to that decision, correct?
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Phil21:10:42 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If there were circumstances that would require a restructuring that would affect holders negatively, how would Jibrel deal with it?
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Christian Hu21:32:27 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Yazan15
This is actually a correct observation.
There are several ways to do this. What we are effectively trying to achieve are two objectives:
A. Provide stable coins backed by on-chain value (Users)
B. Incentivize people to lock value on-chain in JNT (Providers)
This can be implemented in several ways:
1. Fixed Rate (current implementation) - requires high / enterprise user volumes, but remains compliant
2. Fee (percentage) - facilitates many smaller transactions, which is not what we are after at the moment (e.g. our current minimum is 0.5 ETH, by design while we are testing and perfecting)
3. Premiums - stable coin holders see their value drop every month (i.e. they're paying premiums to the liquidity providers to hold their stable coins, similar to how credit default swaps work)
The best system is #3, its how similar financial products work in the real world. But if that is the case, JNT utility token classification is at risk of becoming a security classification, which would've hampered our ability to remain compliant as well as approach exchanges.
We've built it in the most compliant way for now, as we acquire more licenses / more sign-offs, get listed on bigger exchanges, etc. we will re-evaluate how we restructure.
I like it from an economists perspective!
A depreciation simulates inflation and incentivizes investing Jcash in productive on-chain assets to make up for it (e.g. real estate, Jbonds, Jcommodities etc.)
In an economy money is nothing but a claim on goods. therefore the value of total money is more or less equal to the value of total goods. since goods depreciate in value over time, money has, too (i.e. inflation).
For us that means that total JNT value will equal the value of all on-chain goods that are in the „Jibrel monetary system“. Token supply is stable, hence the token value must increase if new goods enter the system.
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Christian Hu21:35:36 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
and if you guys manage to get more assets on-chain, we will all get a little wealthier ;)
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Igor Zubeldia21:53:35 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Yazan15
This is actually a correct observation.
There are several ways to do this. What we are effectively trying to achieve are two objectives:
A. Provide stable coins backed by on-chain value (Users)
B. Incentivize people to lock value on-chain in JNT (Providers)
This can be implemented in several ways:
1. Fixed Rate (current implementation) - requires high / enterprise user volumes, but remains compliant
2. Fee (percentage) - facilitates many smaller transactions, which is not what we are after at the moment (e.g. our current minimum is 0.5 ETH, by design while we are testing and perfecting)
3. Premiums - stable coin holders see their value drop every month (i.e. they're paying premiums to the liquidity providers to hold their stable coins, similar to how credit default swaps work)
The best system is #3, its how similar financial products work in the real world. But if that is the case, JNT utility token classification is at risk of becoming a security classification, which would've hampered our ability to remain compliant as well as approach exchanges.
We've built it in the most compliant way for now, as we acquire more licenses / more sign-offs, get listed on bigger exchanges, etc. we will re-evaluate how we restructure.
Thanks Yazan.
I suppose that we converge here crypto users, familiar with the anarchic and direct operations of the sector, which starts from just cents in exchanges without just regulation until nothing ... and people like you, closer to the financial system. I in CDS and "other herbs", I lose myself absolutely. As you will understand, any Tokens possessor would choose, in any way, because Jibrel would be oriented to clients with the greatest capacity of movement possible, if it would revert for the benefit of the system, but until we see that operation on the table, little idea we can do about it.
Anyway, I have a couple of simple and very specific questions:
- Conversions to Jibrel JCash products, JBonds, etc) ... burn the JNT with which they are backed up?
- That is, they reduce the supply of JNT TOKENS DE FACTO?
- And, very important: Is this supply limited? (will they never be created beyond the stipulated 200 million?)
- And if so: The use of products and burning of chips will ALWAYS affect the rise to the rest of "superviientes" tokens in circulation?
I imagine that some of my questions may be ridiculous for elementary ... but I consider it essential to know the terrain in which I move ... and if I am not able to understand it, however beneficial it may be and without entering into judgments about it, always with the utmost respect, it is a warning sign for me.
Thank you.
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Christian Hu21:58:01 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
Thanks Yazan.
I suppose that we converge here crypto users, familiar with the anarchic and direct operations of the sector, which starts from just cents in exchanges without just regulation until nothing ... and people like you, closer to the financial system. I in CDS and "other herbs", I lose myself absolutely. As you will understand, any Tokens possessor would choose, in any way, because Jibrel would be oriented to clients with the greatest capacity of movement possible, if it would revert for the benefit of the system, but until we see that operation on the table, little idea we can do about it.
Anyway, I have a couple of simple and very specific questions:
- Conversions to Jibrel JCash products, JBonds, etc) ... burn the JNT with which they are backed up?
- That is, they reduce the supply of JNT TOKENS DE FACTO?
- And, very important: Is this supply limited? (will they never be created beyond the stipulated 200 million?)
- And if so: The use of products and burning of chips will ALWAYS affect the rise to the rest of "superviientes" tokens in circulation?
I imagine that some of my questions may be ridiculous for elementary ... but I consider it essential to know the terrain in which I move ... and if I am not able to understand it, however beneficial it may be and without entering into judgments about it, always with the utmost respect, it is a warning sign for me.
Thank you.
from my understanding the Tokens will be locked in a smart contract and held by the DAO as a custodian. When the Jproduct is converted they are unlocked again and put back in circulation (i.e. sold on an exchange)
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Christian Hu21:58:55 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
the total token supply will therefore be stable and limited at 200m
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Christian Hu21:59:47 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
maybe also just locked and held in your own wallet
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Igor Zubeldia22:08:56 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Husche
from my understanding the Tokens will be locked in a smart contract and held by the DAO as a custodian. When the Jproduct is converted they are unlocked again and put back in circulation (i.e. sold on an exchange)
I sincerely thank your staff, Christian, of course. Anyway, I think an "official" response from within is fundamental in something as elementary as that (and probably, an explanation exproceso within the periodic communications of the team so that everyone can understand and not complain after misunderstandings) Regards . ;)
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Christian Hu22:09:30 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
I sincerely thank your comment, Christian, of course. Anyway, I think an "official" response from within is fundamental in something as elementary as that (and probably, an explanation exproceso within the periodic communications of the team so that everyone can understand and not complain after misunderstandings) Regards . ;)
👍🏻
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Christian Hu22:10:25 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
maybe they are still working out the details. Nothing is set in stone until the DAO is live and functional with full decentralization
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Howard22:30:30 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
I sincerely thank your comment, Christian, of course. Anyway, I think an "official" response from within is fundamental in something as elementary as that (and probably, an explanation exproceso within the periodic communications of the team so that everyone can understand and not complain after misunderstandings - that benefit anyone -) Regards . ;)
you have a very "unique" way of conversing. is english your primary language?
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Igor Zubeldia22:37:48 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Howard Obviously, no. Saint Google talks by me
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Howard22:38:38 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
Howard Obviously, no. Saint Google talks by me
google translate?
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Igor Zubeldia22:38:46 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yes
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Howard22:39:18 - 15 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Igor Zubeldia
yes
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what happen jbonds? come back?
Why do you steal photo?
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DaX16:30:13 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Someone help please, just a bit longer and we can't hold us above $.07 anymore ... But I expect that the entire market will continue to fall. we'll get another btc dump in 3 days at the latest. this is very sad because jibrel will also be affected. i bought during ICO with everything I had because i thought $.25 is a bargain but now the price is falling and falling, no change in sight..i do not want to sell jibrel tokens, but if i do not, others will do it and buy more later at a cheaper price and make a profit. why should i hold my jibrel tokens for others to make profit??
I was in this group before and I saw someone who said all the time that everything was going to be fine and that we should just hold our tokens. Now the price dropped from $.13 to $.07, which is almost half.
I could have sold and now bought back. But I did not because this guy in this group constantly encouraged us to hold.. now I am extremely pissed that I listened to that person, but I have learned not to listen to advice from strangers on the internet; Very expensive lesson. But now I also know to always do the opposite of what others say because they don't want the best for you but the best for themselves. price discussions and permanent call to hold is very dangerous and should be banned from this group i ve missed big opportunities to double or triple my stack because of this **** i’ll not accept that any longer and sell so that i am the one who makes profit, and thank you for understanding and please forbid price discussions.. in this group.
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C16:40:28 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Could'a, would'a, should'a... Hindsight is 30/20. Put your phone away for a few months, stop stressing - unless you really need the money, then cut your losses and roll
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DaX16:45:13 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yes i really need it and i already sold my tokens
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C16:51:30 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
All right, my only advice is to let it go then
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C16:52:15 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Don't think about whether it goes up or down. Don't check, until you want to join again. Don't beat yourself up over choices past
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sir16:58:31 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
yes i really need it and i already sold my tokens
buy buy buy
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DaX16:58:37 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
thank you i’ll check the price in late december i think and see if its worth buying back
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sir16:59:17 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
thank you i’ll check the price in late december i think and see if its worth buying back
Before you have a million jnt, the only thing you have to do is buy and buy.
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sir17:01:00 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
thank you i’ll check the price in late december i think and see if its worth buying back
One hundred people, each buying one million, jnt will rise to 5$
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C17:01:28 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Sound logic 😂😂😂
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sir17:01:36 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
it is so easy
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C17:02:27 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
thank you i’ll check the price in late december i think and see if its worth buying back
Check price, check progress, but don't come here to check for advice.
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sir17:03:21 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The current price is so cheap, and the cash owned by the team has exceeded the market value, so buy it now.
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DaX17:03:54 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Conor_Jerrell
Check price, check progress, but don't come here to check for advice.
True not after what happened
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sir17:04:11 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Do not hesitate. Buy. now
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sir17:04:57 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If you buy it too, I also buy it, he also buys it, the price will definitely go up, everyone earned it.
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DaX17:05:04 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
netsir
Do not hesitate. Buy. now
I have a very low IQ and even I realize that’s nonsense
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DaX17:05:14 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I’m not falling for that
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sir17:06:28 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
I have a very low IQ and even I realize that’s nonsense
Buying in a bear market, shipping in a bull market, and sticking to value investing, why do you want to reverse it?
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C17:07:08 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
I have a very low IQ and even I realize that’s nonsense
Probably not as low as most others in these channels. Good for you :)
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sir17:07:25 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
When the market is not good, I will not sell one. Instead I will buy regularly
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sir17:08:12 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
When the market is good, I will get back the principal.
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Jimmy RUssle18:06:57 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If you were going to sell at any time lately, you hsould have sold at $.20 before the update
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Ismael20:34:21 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
underestimated this bear market
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Bitcoin Bobn20:34:44 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Lol we all did
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sir22:27:28 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
If you were going to sell at any time lately, you hsould have sold at $.20 before the update
i sold 0.7$
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Jimmy RUssle22:27:48 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
YOU BLOODY
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Jimmy RUssle22:27:57 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I BOUGHT THERE
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DaX22:32:31 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
I BOUGHT THERE
SFYL
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Jimmy RUssle22:32:51 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
(unrealised loss)
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Richie22:35:30 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
YOU BLOODY
Sir please, to make using such language on a fellow sir is unsirlike
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Jimmy RUssle22:36:51 - 17 Nov 2018 [UTC]
RichieJ
Sir please, to make using such language on a fellow sir is unsirlike
sorry I got upset because I'm financially ruined at this point in time. It really did look we were gonna hit $1 then tho. If someone would have told me we'd be at %.07 now I probably would have kept the money in FIAT tbh
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Propagandist00:51:23 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
sorry I got upset because I'm financially ruined at this point in time. It really did look we were gonna hit $1 then tho. If someone would have told me we'd be at %.07 now I probably would have kept the money in FIAT tbh
risk management
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Jimmy RUssle00:56:37 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Tymbals
risk management
pls enlighen me with your risk management strategy
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Propagandist01:13:37 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
pls enlighen me with your risk management strategy
just learn from what you say you would have done differently. Stay safe
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Jimmy RUssle01:30:53 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Tymbals
just learn from what you say you would have done differently. Stay safe
yea, buy the bottom sell the top. How hard could it be?
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sir01:33:04 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The price drop is because there are fewer people to buy, but the reason is actually found. The current thing to do is to constantly buy and raise the price.
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sir01:33:42 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If jnt is ten dollars, everyone will be happy.
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Propagandist01:36:06 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
yea, buy the bottom sell the top. How hard could it be?
hold a percentage in fiat always
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Beijing soros Deng01:43:43 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
netsir
The current price is so cheap, and the cash owned by the team has exceeded the market value, so buy it now.
Yes,Before you have a million jnt, the only thing you have to do is buy and buy.
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융희제03:56:32 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yongruideng
Yes,Before you have a million jnt, the only thing you have to do is buy and buy.
I have 300k right now. I am aiming for 1MM. Waiting for lower price
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Beijing soros Deng04:16:02 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yunghi1
I have 300k right now. I am aiming for 1MM. Waiting for lower price
Have you withdraw JNT to your wallet?
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Beijing soros Deng04:16:47 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
yunghi1
I have 300k right now. I am aiming for 1MM. Waiting for lower price
I have 200K right now
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Jimmy RUssle04:52:06 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I have 430K that I tade on bibox, no 2fa enabled
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Dale Wallace06:21:11 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
I have 430K that I tade on bibox, no 2fa enabled
I had 100,000 I gave away to a russian hacker.
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Ismael12:07:54 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
OK nice flex
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DaX12:07:59 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I used to have 200k before I decided to sell because of the upcoming dump ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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DaX12:08:10 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The worst is yet to come
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Ismael12:08:14 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I have 30mm aiming for 100mm :))
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sir12:08:54 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I have 100mm aiming for 1000mm :))
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Richie12:09:01 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Dereezed
I have 30mm aiming for 100mm :))
Pleb
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DaX12:10:28 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Somehow I don’t believe you all, please show proof
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DaX12:22:59 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
But what I know for sure, BTC will be pumped a bit to trick rookies to buy in and then whales dump it in the next few days. Luckily my whale friend told me their strategy and he also told that it will not be funny at all... not so good times ahead for noobs
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C12:54:14 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Will you eat your words here if it turns out to be not so?
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Jibrel 🐶12:57:16 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Fewer people, no news, no voice for team development?
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DaX13:31:38 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Conor_Jerrell
Will you eat your words here if it turns out to be not so?
ok yes, i will literally do that.
just had a call with my friend and he said that the SEC is going to smash down all BTC ETFs next week. The guys in the SEC headquarters are not very happy with this crypto thing in general, because of the additional work it is causing.. they now have to deal with more complicated fraud patterns and need to work longer ... so they actually hate crypto and will justify the rejection with the fact that crypto market are manipulated too much. ironically some whales know about this because of a leak and can’t wait to dump the **** out of crypto but first they want to convince (for more profit and a harder dump) stupid money that btc will go to the moon by end of the year and fool them into buying overpriced BTCs.
and the black friday is also not far away. a lot crypto will be sold and withdrawn in advance for black friday shopping.
my friend says btc will go down another 30% and will only hold the 4k mark with great pains.
lets see if he is right .
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C13:35:06 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
ok yes, i will literally do that.
just had a call with my friend and he said that the SEC is going to smash down all BTC ETFs next week. The guys in the SEC headquarters are not very happy with this crypto thing in general, because of the additional work it is causing.. they now have to deal with more complicated fraud patterns and need to work longer ... so they actually hate crypto and will justify the rejection with the fact that crypto market are manipulated too much. ironically some whales know about this because of a leak and can’t wait to dump the **** out of crypto but first they want to convince (for more profit and a harder dump) stupid money that btc will go to the moon by end of the year and fool them into buying overpriced BTCs.
and the black friday is also not far away. a lot crypto will be sold and withdrawn in advance for black friday shopping.
my friend says btc will go down another 30% and will only hold the 4k mark with great pains.
lets see if he is right .
Thanks for sharing! It'll for sure be interesting to see if this is how it plays out
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0h/M/13:37:37 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
„The guys in the SEC headquarters are not very happy with this crypto thing because they need to work longer“ 😂 how old are you??
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sir13:40:02 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
ok yes, i will literally do that.
just had a call with my friend and he said that the SEC is going to smash down all BTC ETFs next week. The guys in the SEC headquarters are not very happy with this crypto thing in general, because of the additional work it is causing.. they now have to deal with more complicated fraud patterns and need to work longer ... so they actually hate crypto and will justify the rejection with the fact that crypto market are manipulated too much. ironically some whales know about this because of a leak and can’t wait to dump the **** out of crypto but first they want to convince (for more profit and a harder dump) stupid money that btc will go to the moon by end of the year and fool them into buying overpriced BTCs.
and the black friday is also not far away. a lot crypto will be sold and withdrawn in advance for black friday shopping.
my friend says btc will go down another 30% and will only hold the 4k mark with great pains.
lets see if he is right .
This is good news
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sir13:40:52 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
ok yes, i will literally do that.
just had a call with my friend and he said that the SEC is going to smash down all BTC ETFs next week. The guys in the SEC headquarters are not very happy with this crypto thing in general, because of the additional work it is causing.. they now have to deal with more complicated fraud patterns and need to work longer ... so they actually hate crypto and will justify the rejection with the fact that crypto market are manipulated too much. ironically some whales know about this because of a leak and can’t wait to dump the **** out of crypto but first they want to convince (for more profit and a harder dump) stupid money that btc will go to the moon by end of the year and fool them into buying overpriced BTCs.
and the black friday is also not far away. a lot crypto will be sold and withdrawn in advance for black friday shopping.
my friend says btc will go down another 30% and will only hold the 4k mark with great pains.
lets see if he is right .
Virtual currency is never afraid of suppression, and the more it is suppressed, the more favorable it is.
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DaX13:50:14 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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DaX13:51:21 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
M00112233221100M
„The guys in the SEC headquarters are not very happy with this crypto thing because they need to work longer“ 😂 how old are you??
I’m turning 28 in December but that are not my words that are the words my friend used
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Richie13:51:30 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
GUYS DO NOT OPEN THAT’S A SCAM!!
Too much of this. They should ban the sending of files like this
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DaX13:53:11 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I promise, I didn’t send that, Sir!
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Sir!!!!
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DaX13:55:58 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
RichieJ
Sir!!!!
Yes, Sir!! Or are you a madam??
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Dale Wallace14:01:25 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
ok yes, i will literally do that.
just had a call with my friend and he said that the SEC is going to smash down all BTC ETFs next week. The guys in the SEC headquarters are not very happy with this crypto thing in general, because of the additional work it is causing.. they now have to deal with more complicated fraud patterns and need to work longer ... so they actually hate crypto and will justify the rejection with the fact that crypto market are manipulated too much. ironically some whales know about this because of a leak and can’t wait to dump the **** out of crypto but first they want to convince (for more profit and a harder dump) stupid money that btc will go to the moon by end of the year and fool them into buying overpriced BTCs.
and the black friday is also not far away. a lot crypto will be sold and withdrawn in advance for black friday shopping.
my friend says btc will go down another 30% and will only hold the 4k mark with great pains.
lets see if he is right .
You sold your JNT because a friend said a bunch of SEC people are lazy and will take out their frustrations on BTC causing it to tank. Solid fundamentals there well don't forget to buy back in if it does go down or you will miss out.
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Richie14:13:20 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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This chat has become a dumping ground for viruses and scam groups.
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500% sir
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Oliwia Szlachetny15:40:34 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Most investors are waiting for the bull period. But the bull period will never happen again. Because BTC is the cause of the bull period. BTC increased supporters of this market. This increased the number of investors by announcing the name of the market. He raised the total money in this girl. That's why there's a lot of stupid coins called BTC. But the longer the market has changed, the stronger the supporters and the good developers in the team will increase the value of some coins.
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Ferdinando15:54:10 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
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What did I just read?
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Not sure what it is
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Jimmy RUssle17:11:43 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
my dad works for the SEC and he is a big guy..... he says crypto is awesome because it gives them an excuse to ask for a bigger budget
AT
Adrian Toth17:50:22 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
my dad was satoshi's boss and he said btc is going to 100000000 this year because he will hack the number into it to flex on the fiat niBBas
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Anthony18:01:10 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
My dad is nine years old
JR
Jimmy RUssle18:09:00 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Moregnan
my dad was satoshi's boss and he said btc is going to 100000000 this year because he will hack the number into it to flex on the fiat niBBas
🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
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DaX20:22:18 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
rogerver_official
Roger Ver still does not have enough (BTC) cash so that he needs to scam innocent people in telegram groups. Shame on you Sir Roger Ver!
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Richie20:29:14 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
Roger Ver still does not have enough (BTC) cash so that he needs to scam innocent people in telegram groups. Shame on you Sir Roger Ver!
Roger Sir
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Gucci21:22:01 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
hello
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DaX21:29:04 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Hello Mr Gucci
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:32:17 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Pls don't post 4chan frogs here guys it's bad for our image
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:35:20 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
not cool bro that frog represents hatred and opproession
KV
Korbinian von Obazda21:35:31 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
We should change that
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:36:05 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/a-normal-persons-guide-to-how-far-right-trolls-talk-to-each
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DaX21:41:39 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Please avoid spam, my esteemed Sirs!
KV
Korbinian von Obazda21:44:51 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
Please avoid spam, my esteemed Sirs!
Yes Mr DaX
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DaX21:47:18 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Thank you Mr. Korbinian von Obazda. Your understanding is highly appreciated. We want to look like a serious telegram group.
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:48:07 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
just trying to prevent this telegram from becoming a baston of far right extremism. if they gain a foothold here we are finished,. 4chan frog posting must be called out
KV
Korbinian von Obazda21:52:42 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DaX
Thank you Mr. Korbinian von Obazda. Your understanding is highly appreciated. We want to look like a serious telegram group.
Dear Mr DaX, wise words.
I do fully agree on this point and hope together we can create a safer and better Telegram Group which is accessible for new and old Members.
With this step we are closer to doing so, I hereby thank you and will try to do my part in turning this vision into reality.
Kind regards, Korbinian
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Richie21:53:43 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Sirs I must say
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Richie21:54:08 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Kindly keep up this cordial siring. And we will all surely make it.
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DaX21:56:24 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
KorbiC
Dear Mr DaX, wise words.
I do fully agree on this point and hope together we can create a safer and better Telegram Group which is accessible for new and old Members.
With this step we are closer to doing so, I hereby thank you and will try to do my part in turning this vision into reality.
Kind regards, Korbinian
Thank you very much for your commitment. I believe that our cooperation will bear fruits sooner or later.
JR
Jimmy RUssle21:57:02 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
RichieJ
Sirs I must say
🌶🌶🌶🔥🔥🔥🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳
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Wiingy22:44:01 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
There must be a bit that stops linking of files
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Richie22:51:21 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
wiingy
There must be a bot that stops linking of files
@ttabbaa
MO
Mathias Olsen23:29:20 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
what's good?
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DaX23:33:25 - 18 Nov 2018 [UTC]
assertivehealth
what's good?
Yes
LS
Lee Shuchan00:18:30 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I am korean investmenter.
I can’t get my coin back from coinrail exchange. It's still locked. It can't be used.
LS
Lee Shuchan00:21:18 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Ticket Received - JNT team. But no answerd for 1 weeks.
LS
Lee Shuchan00:21:31 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Please help me. Sir
JR
Jimmy RUssle00:24:23 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
aigoo ottoke
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Max01:20:31 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
huanel
I am korean investmenter.
I can’t get my coin back from coinrail exchange. It's still locked. It can't be used.
I will tag @ttabbaa and I’m sure he will get back to you ASAP.
Apologies for any delay.
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Damon03:08:05 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Our Father who art in heaven, Changpeng Zhao be thy name. Thy listing come. Thy pump be done, on IDEX as it is on Binance. Give us this day our daily volume; and forgive us our FUD, as we forgive those who FUD against us; and lead us not into bottom selling, but deliver us from losses. For the exchange listings, the pumps, and the glory are yours, now and for ever. Amen
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Damon03:08:16 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Soon Binance + Bithumb + Dubai Government
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Damon03:08:32 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
FACE TATTOO: Binance + Bitthumb + Dubai Government
CHEST TATTOO: Binance + Bitthumb + Dubai Government
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Damon03:08:42 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
🙏
JG
Jay G04:31:04 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
How is the team's relationship with Sheikk Maktoum and his family nowadays?
JG
Jay G04:34:15 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The Sheikh's Seed Group, rather
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David04:38:42 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
i think its gonna hit 4 cents soon
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David04:38:44 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
btc dipping
JG
Jay G04:41:21 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
BTC isn't dipping though
FS
Frank Stanley05:50:46 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jay G
BTC isn't dipping though
this didnt age well
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MB06:32:13 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Will Jibrel do anything before market movement takes it to 0,03? Find out in the next episode of "we hope to announce something soon"
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Ismael07:08:14 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Lol I wonder even how they gonna get listed with this level of liquidity
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Ismael07:08:22 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
It is always a requirement for exchanges
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Richie07:25:18 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Dereezed
Lol I wonder even how they gonna get listed with this level of liquidity
They will need market makers to be taken seriously by big exchanges.
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Richie07:26:08 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
If Jibrel is in line for listing, these terrible volume number surely will push JNT back.
정이
정준 이07:30:27 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
hell......
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Damon07:33:42 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
hell......
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DaX08:08:52 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
dominopiz
hell......
Hello. How are you?
S
Shaik08:54:34 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Hi
方
方方09:05:42 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
123
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Anthony12:50:29 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Guys
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Anthony12:50:48 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
My jibbies don't feel so good
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DaX13:46:14 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Neither do mine
D
DaX13:46:50 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
oh I forgot .. i sold them two days ago
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DaX13:47:06 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
so technically, I don’t have any more
D
DaX13:47:30 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
bit they will always stay in my heart
D
DaX13:49:01 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
May the buyer treat them better than I did
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Ismael13:55:23 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Lol
K
kingslayer6914:51:20 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
talal
K
kingslayer6914:51:26 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
where is my money
M
MB16:43:24 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Somebody has to pay for all the delays
M
MB16:44:29 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
For all the changes in the project and for the lack of any products one year after ico
M
MB16:44:49 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Sadly, it's the people who put money in the token
M
MB16:45:19 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
But selling now? Now that's a risky move
M
MB16:47:10 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
The biggest hits will be taken by tokens with no current usage, with the market free falling investing in speculation is suicide
M
MB16:48:25 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
But let's not forget we are currently sitting at a hilariously low market cap because jibrel is currently nothing
JR
Jimmy RUssle16:48:42 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
don't worry guys game changing announcements soon!
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MB16:48:50 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
So I'll give it the time to become something
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Ismael16:48:54 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Soon asf
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Howard16:49:01 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
its a long time until end of the year
H
Howard16:49:34 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
dont get me wrong, im still holding. but everyday feels like an eternity
JR
Jimmy RUssle16:50:38 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
no everything is fine! Just buy the dip!
HW
Helmut Wenndermond16:57:17 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Soo did bitcoin just kill?
PC
Petr Capek17:02:04 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
BenAnderson82
Soo did bitcoin just kill?
XRP now?
HW
Helmut Wenndermond17:02:54 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Everything is totaly rekt
KV
Korbinian von Obazda17:02:59 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Holy I just went for a Holiday and looked at the Market, pretty interesting moves
KV
Korbinian von Obazda17:04:03 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Time to take another holiday next week if it continues lol
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MB17:04:56 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
KorbiC
Time to take another holiday next week if it continues lol
Better take a long holiday
PC
Petr Capek17:06:02 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
BenAnderson82
Everything is totaly rekt
XRP is 19,50% up vs BTC
PC
Petr Capek17:06:24 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
trump said its the new american coin vs BTC ( China mining pools )
KV
Korbinian von Obazda17:08:43 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
MB
Better take a long holiday
Well time for some Espresso in Italy
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Ismael17:11:21 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
I'm shocked by how much the market can still tank after this doomed year
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Chad17:11:49 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Njeel
trump said its the new american coin vs BTC ( China mining pools )
New american coin please elaborate.
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:17:16 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Chad
New american coin please elaborate.
The entire city of Chennai is under a direct order to shill XRP on every ginle platform, Disregard ripple shills.
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DaX17:29:59 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Please do not talk about XRP in this group, Sirs. It’s the shittiest, most overvalued, hyped, centralized and most useless shitcoin I’ve EVER seen and I’ve seen a lot.
PC
Petr Capek17:30:30 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Chad
New american coin please elaborate.
i just googled, trump didn't say anything about ripple, his admin did.
PC
Petr Capek17:31:29 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
article I saw looked sketchy
.
Like all crypto articles lol
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:37:57 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
DEPORT RIPPLE SHILLS
PC
Petr Capek17:40:28 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
DEPORT RIPPLE SHILLS
nobody is shilling xrp
PC
Petr Capek17:41:15 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
just said its XRP is 19,50% up vs BTC which is correct - its an centralized banking coin nobody doubted this
PC
Petr Capek17:42:05 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
and for full full disclosure i dont hold any xrp or btc - just jnt and eos
JR
Jimmy RUssle17:42:23 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Your documents are expired sir
PC
Petr Capek17:42:51 - 19 Nov 2018 [UTC]
Jimmy RUssle
Your documents are expired sir
?