Jibrel Network Telegram History

Jimmy18:59:30 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Not at all, this is exactly what we need at this point, feedback from the community and suggestsions about future plans.

Fantastic! I saw early on in 2013 that Ripple was doing the right things, making the right moves and bringing on the right people so I took a position in xrp while everyone was FUDing especially the Bitcoin maximalists. They were focusing on a real work use case that’s a pain point for international cross border payments, this a real problem that we had for which the likes of the IMF and BIS wished to resolve even back then. Also instead of trying to be the only crypto they focus on Interoperability back in 2014-2015. None other crypto even started talking about Interoperability unto late 2016 - early 2017. With the changes over the last 5 years there are plenty more use and see Jibrel focusing on a number of these. At least for the MENA Regions, I can see that if Jibrel makes the right moves and brings on the right people Jibrel will be definitely be very successful in that region with the potential to dominate Blockchain/fintech/crypto in that region.

Petr Capek19:06:51 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

What components do you think are missing and we should work on Jimmy ?

idea.. move to worbli.io 4000 tps and scalable, no transcation fees - they are an new EOS sisster chain for fintec projects - all users have completed full AML/KYC user account verification already - full compliant

Chuck Spinelli20:04:42 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy RUssle

Serious topic: We must stop ending montly/quarterly reports with "to the moon'. I fee like this leads the reader to believe there is an expectation of profits from the investment.

Agreed

David20:13:10 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

tarekayna

https://twitter.com/APompliano/status/1068903495376519168?s=19

that's cool

Channel_Bot20:33:54 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Mahid21:05:46 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Did the November report come out?

Mahid21:05:53 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Or is it due to come out today?

Ala Haddad21:07:40 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey Mahid, we'll release the update on the first Friday of every month for the previous month

Mahid21:07:54 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Cool cool cool

Mahid21:08:06 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Is today's pump just the big lottery wheel in the sky landing on JNT?

Jimmy21:50:09 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@arhadd can you direct me to where I can take a look at your Whitepaper? Can’t seem to find it online or on your website.

Howard22:13:52 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

@arhadd @ttabbaa can you direct me to where I can take a look at your Whitepaper? Can’t seem to find it online or on your website.

https://github.com/jibrelnetwork/white_paper

Jimmy22:42:23 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard

https://github.com/jibrelnetwork/white_paper

Thank you Howard... 👍

Jimmy22:44:22 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard it’s saying “file is too big to show”

Howard22:46:52 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Howard it’s saying “file is too big to show”

https://github.com/jibrelnetwork/white_paper/blob/master/Jibrel%20Network%20-%20White%20Paper%20(3rd%20Draft).pdf

Howard22:47:17 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Howard it’s saying “file is too big to show”

try on desktop

Jimmy23:03:47 - 01 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@ttabbaa @arhadd Why isn’t the founder, co-founder, team members shown on your website.

lin Wang00:32:57 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Not at all, this is exactly what we need at this point, feedback from the community and suggestsions about future plans.

Will the exchange go online this month?

Call me: Deng01:11:17 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

@ttabbaa @arhadd Why isn’t the founder, co-founder, team members and advisors info shown on your website.

This is a good question. In the beginning, our website has information about the team and consultants. Some of Jibrel's products have been released, and the content of our website has changed from investor-oriented to user-oriented. The user's focus is more on product information.

Call me: Deng01:12:15 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

This is a good question. In the beginning, our website has information about the team and advisors. Some of Jibrel's products have been released, and the content of our website has changed from investor-oriented to user-oriented. The user's focus is more on product information.

Jimmy01:17:17 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

The thing to remember is any investors, FIs or enterprise that is looking into Jibrel will look at the website. If they are interested in the technology they will look at the White paper and github. If they are validating the strengths and background of the team they will look at the website to see who are the people behind the company.

Jay G01:17:55 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy did you just find out about JNT recently?

Jay G01:18:05 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Your opinions are on point imo

lin Wang01:18:15 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Great proposal.

Jay G01:18:21 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Let me know what you think after you read the whitepaper

Jimmy01:20:09 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

You taking Weiss Rating for example they are one of the few rating agencies from the FI industry that in the U.S. that rates Financial Institutions, Mutual Funds, ETFs etc.. they started rating crypto currencies as of last year. A few of the criteria’s they look at are the following. - Tech from GitHub - Team - Use cases and adoptions or potential of adoptions. These are very basic things that all investors and customers will look at.

Jimmy01:20:36 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jay G

Jimmy did you just find out about JNT recently?

Yes indeed.. I recently found out about Jibrel only a few days ago..

Jimmy01:24:19 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

lin Wang

Great proposal.

Thanks... 👍

Jay Mr.01:27:14 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Thanks... 👍

I quite agree with your idea and support your suggestion.

Jimmy01:31:07 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jay Mr.

I quite agree with your idea and support your suggestion.

Thank you Jay. I’m glad to see some community member agree with this. I’ve doing dd on Jibrel the last couple days and these are the questions that I see in the project. Let’s wait to hear the Jibrel’s team’s input on this...

Call me: Deng01:31:17 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

thank you so much for your suggestion.I believe the team will discuss this issue.

Jimmy01:33:36 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

thank you so much for your suggestion.I believe the team will discuss this issue.

Thank you Deng. I feel like I’m the only person in here asking these basic questions.

Jay Mr.01:33:42 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

thank you so much for your suggestion.I believe the team will discuss this issue.

It's magical to see

Call me: Deng01:45:58 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Thank you Deng. I feel like I’m the only person in here asking these basic questions.

Jimmy, are you Chinese in the United States?

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lin Wang01:47:42 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

What components do you think are missing and we should work on Jimmy ?

Can you come to WeChat group?

Ala Haddad01:50:27 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Thank you Deng. I feel like I’m the only person in here asking these basic questions.

Hey Jimmy, thank you for your valuable input. The team will take note of this. Let us know if you have any more questions or feedback.

Andrea Sandnegra01:51:52 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Does Jibrel approve the LGBTQ community?

Andrea Sandnegra01:53:18 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

If I go to Saudi Arabia they won't accept me

Deng01:58:01 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

lin Wang

Can you come to WeChat group?

ni zai 300 ren na ge wei xin qun ma？

Jimmy02:03:36 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

Jimmy, are you Chinese in the United States?

Yes, that’s correct Deng

Jimmy02:04:26 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Hey Jimmy, thank you for your valuable input. The team will take note of this. Let us know if you have any more questions or feedback.

Would love to see the white paper being added on the website as well as team bio/credentials/info.

Jimmy02:04:53 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

ni zai 300 ren na ge wei xin qun ma？

Deng can you add me to the Jibrel Wechat group also?

Deng02:06:02 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Deng can you add me to the Jibrel Wechat group also?

Jimmy We have already invited you, please check WeChat

Jay Mr.02:08:04 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

Jimmy We have already invited you, please check WeChat

Lin shi qun li de ~

Deng02:12:16 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jay Mr.

Lin shi qun li de ~

你加我微信yr deng 我拉你到这个群

Deng02:12:33 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jay Mr.

Lin shi qun li de ~

微信号yrdeng

Jimmy02:14:08 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jay Mr.

Lin shi qun li de ~

Wo Shi Chao Zhou Ren. Zai Mei Guo.. Silicon Valley.

Jimmy02:14:14 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

你加我微信yr deng 我拉你到这个群

👍

Deng02:14:55 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Wo Shi Chao Zhou Ren. Zai Mei Guo.. Silicon Valley.

I am also a Cantonese.

Jimmy02:16:03 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

I am also a Cantonese.

Nice! Is speak Cantonese, Mandarin and Chew Chow...

Andrea Sandnegra03:05:33 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What happen with Jibrel. Why is it so dump?

Jimmy04:01:34 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

andreaa_1985

What happen with Jibrel. Why is it so dump?

Are you feeling ok? 🤔

Dale Wallace04:06:35 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

andreaa_1985

What happen with Jibrel. Why is it so dump?

not sure what charts you're looking at but JNT is close to a monthly high

zYnTtT sGm04:40:07 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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lin Wang04:43:01 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

正在使用发音 The project has offices in the United States and Switzerland, but there seems to be little development. What is the significance of setting up an office?

Chuck Spinelli08:25:20 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Mahid

Is today's pump just the big lottery wheel in the sky landing on JNT?

Pump?

Chuck Spinelli08:25:24 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Laughable

Channel_Bot09:08:17 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Michel10:08:57 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

lin Wang

正在使用发音 The project has offices in the United States and Switzerland, but there seems to be little development. What is the significance of setting up an office?

1) they work out of there and 2) in countries where you’d like to operate you need to have a local presence

Talal Tabbaa10:14:50 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We are domiciled in Zug, but not an operating office.. We also work out of a co-working space in NY and St Petersburg(we have a full isolated section as this is where all our devs work).. As for Dubai, we work out of the SEED office and have free space as part of the DIFC Fintech program

Bk 13 [$JNT]10:15:29 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

lin Wang

正在使用发音 The project has offices in the United States and Switzerland, but there seems to be little development. What is the significance of setting up an office?

⬆️

hPnAl rIaSbN11:21:33 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Wibe11:55:19 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

you guys use coinpaprika?

Wibe11:55:36 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

really nice, https://coinpaprika.com/coin/jnt-jibrel-network/#!events

PAI12:05:21 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

2% +3.27% +51.5% +3.79% - The Jibrel Network aims to facilitate the digitization, listing and trading of traditional assets such as currencies, bonds and other financial instruments, on the blockchain. The Jibrel Decentralized Autonomous Organization (Jibrel DAO) will allow platform users to deposit cash, money market instruments or create their own Crypto Depository Receipts (CryDRs) and benefit from on-chain / off-chain arbitrage. Decentralized organizations and funds that are overexposed in digital currencies can hedge their positions and protect their funding with stable assets. Platform (532)Smart Contracts (711)Token Issuance (77)Erc20 (836)Finance & Banking (149)Trading & Investing (142)Assets Management (137)Privacy & Security (179)Suggest a tag Website:jibrel.network Explorer:etherscan.ioethplorer.io Source code:Source code Discussion:bitcointalk.orgSlackTelegram Social (followers):MediumReddit (1 457)Twitter (6 466) Calculator JNT USD Buy Jibrel NetworkThe biggest volume on Gate.io Wallet for Jibrel Network: Download Market Cap Rank 248 All Time High $10 417 1282 530 BTC $0.65084307 Feb 2018

Wibe12:06:06 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

smooth, right?

Philippe van Sternberg12:23:52 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Crypto markets are not looking very promising right now.. i really hope we’ll not see another dump ...

Christian Hu12:24:25 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

You taking Weiss Rating for example they are one of the few rating agencies from the FI industry that in the U.S. that rates Financial Institutions, Mutual Funds, ETFs etc.. they started rating crypto currencies as of last year. https://www.weissratings.com/investment-ratings A few of the criteria’s they look at are the following. - Commits and codes from GitHub - Team - Use cases and adoptions or potential of adoptions. These are very basic things that all investors and customers will look at.

really? I don’t think customers will look at Github commits, it depends more on the team and their ability to sell. The advisor network will come in handy here to set up pitches with potential clients

raindx12:31:55 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Early!

Channel_Bot13:31:27 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Philippe van Sternberg13:53:57 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

🌹广告要牛，效果要猛🌹

WTF!!?? ADMIN PLEASE DELETE THIS ASAP!! DO NOT RELEASE PORNOGRAPHIC CONTENT HERE!! REALLY!! I’M A MUSLIM!! Allah prohibited watching pornos and now I’ve done just that!! May my prayers appease Allahs anger..

Philippe van Sternberg13:54:48 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

please hellp

AJ13:55:16 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

That's a dude ewww

RJ 1087913:56:07 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

🌹广告要牛，效果要猛🌹

Admin please translate. This is a English chat.

Björn13:57:29 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yazidu7

That's a dude ewww

Pretty sure that's a woman

Philippe van Sternberg13:58:28 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

RJ999999

Admin please translate. This is an English chat.

no, sir no translation of this. this is not funny really .. i feel very offended. i think i need to leave this group if it’s not deleted right now..

AJ13:58:33 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Proof of nudity doesn't work in 2018 mate.

Philippe van Sternberg14:01:10 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

i hope Allah can forgive me

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti14:20:07 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Esteemed ladies and sirs, please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti and I just joined Jibrel Network Telegram group. I am from Cape Town, South Africa. Although I am working as a farmer and not earning much, I am always in an upbeat mood and glad to be here. Sorry for my poor English.

Jay Mr.14:25:45 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Nice to meet your farmer friend from South Africa.

RJ 1087914:28:08 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Nice to meet you esteemed sir. I hope the coming harvest is bountiful

Philippe van Sternberg14:31:47 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Hello and welcome to our group. I’m also some kind of farmer.

TsarBuig15:11:22 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

IDtoken

really nice, https://coinpaprika.com/coin/jnt-jibrel-network/#!events

So ugly

dRtQa kQbOuZ16:01:16 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Micholas16:05:34 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

hii

Denis M16:05:47 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

micholas1

hii

Philippe van Sternberg16:30:47 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hello 👋

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Shahem Al Hadid17:30:48 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Welcome to the group guys

Ala Haddad17:30:51 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey everyone, welcome to the Jibrel group, please refer to the pinned message and ask questions!

Helmut Wenndermond17:33:36 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Hey everyone, welcome to the Jibrel group, please refer to the pinned message and ask questions!

Hello and good evening, mister sir, I have a question.

Channel_Bot17:40:53 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Ala Haddad18:06:07 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

BenAnderson82

Hello and good evening, mister sir, I have a question.

Ask away :)

Helmut Wenndermond18:08:51 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

When moon, sir? My children are getting hungry, sir.

Ala Haddad18:10:29 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We don't discuss price here in the channel. Please refrain from asking such questions.

Michel18:24:11 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

BenAnderson82

When moon, sir? My children are getting hungry, sir.

This is why we can’t have nice things ...

Channel_Bot18:39:18 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Jimmy18:44:27 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

⚠️Attention. ❗️Our tokens have been added to the official EtherToken exchange. Here you can sell your tokens several times more expensive. Entry to the exchange: http://clc.la/a2nwEw

@admin looks scammy... perhaps a good idea to delete this?

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Channel_Bot19:33:52 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

**🔺**** Important information from the administration** Our tokens have been added to the official EtherToken exchange. Here you can sell your tokens several times more expensive. **✔️EtherToken:** http://clc.la/Ro8VoA

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Sean Lo20:33:05 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Anyone buying a finney?

Chico Guapo21:45:08 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hello ALL JIBREL MEMBERS

Chico Guapo21:46:01 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Welcome to this group Esteemed sir!

Chico Guapo21:46:21 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What kind of crops do you grow?

Philippe van Sternberg21:47:49 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Sean Lo

Anyone buying a finney?

that is something nobody needs. just buy iphone, ty

Korbinian von Obazda22:04:22 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

chicoguapo1

What kind of crops do you grow?

Heeey Chico, I grow hairs

Doug Polk Crypto22:30:27 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hello Admin, with over 198k subscribers on my YouTube channel, I record video review of ICO/platforms / trading and exchange platform for marketing and promotion to referenced geographical areas including (all continents) using communication models to distribute information with our logical concepts and idea to get an astronautical response and production. I will advertise and make a larger audience have the knowledge of your ICO on major crypto/bitcoin news publisher sites and top listing websites which will attract a lot of investors to your project. kindly pm me if interested. Thanks.

RJ 1087922:36:42 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dougpolk_01

>kindly >pm me because im restricted for spamming

Sean Lo22:54:55 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

that is something nobody needs. just buy iphone, ty

You could argue no one needs an iphone either. Just buy an android. :)

Sean Lo22:55:20 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Anyways, finney looks intetesting... but 1 k.. hmm.

Philippe van Sternberg23:06:26 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I’d rather buy JNT with 1k ... (**THIS IS NOT AN INVESTMENT ADVICE!!)**

Sean Lo23:14:14 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Same haha

Philippe van Sternberg23:19:32 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yeah...if only I had money.. the bears have eaten up all my recourses

Jimmy23:33:30 - 02 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@ttabbaa @arhadd I’m not sure where we are in terms of exchange listings. Did you know about this new program Binance Gold Projects that was just launched last week? We should submit an application to this. Will save a lot of money from exchange listing. https://medium.com/binanceexchange/binance-info-launches-gold-label-project-29346f359f2d

Ala Haddad00:10:53 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Thanks for sharing, we will definitely look into this.

Jimmy00:41:05 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Thanks for sharing, we will definitely look into this.

Thank you Ala... 👍

大

大渔02:48:37 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

contact/联系 @jackpeng1

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Mayer06:06:19 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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MB07:54:28 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@arhadd are exchange listings still in plan for this quarter?

Philippe van Sternberg08:41:09 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@arhadd are exchange listings still in plan for this quarter?

Personally, I don't think we'll be listed on major exchanges this year. But that is not necessarily Jibrels fault. The whole market situation right now is very unfavourable.

Damon08:47:57 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Personally, I don't think we'll be listed on major exchanges this year. But that is not necessarily Jibrels fault. The whole market situation right now is very unfavourable.

Despite the market conditions, JNT is currently rising in price. I think JNT should be listed this month(if possible)

MB08:50:28 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

dominopiz

Despite the market conditions, JNT is currently rising in price. I think JNT should be listed this month(if possible)

Right now you need 10% of all JNT to provide solvency for the 1 mil coming from abu dhabi bank. If you think the price is strong now, you'll have a nice surprise by EOY

Dale Wallace08:56:36 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Right now you need 10% of all JNT to provide solvency for the 1 mil coming from abu dhabi bank. If you think the price is strong now, you'll have a nice surprise by EOY

If they keep it at 100% solvency (which I doubt, likely to be higher) It should be between 15c-20c Not knowing at what % solvency they'll aim for is what excites me :).

Channel_Bot09:43:21 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Kishore10:02:34 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Right now you need 10% of all JNT to provide solvency for the 1 mil coming from abu dhabi bank. If you think the price is strong now, you'll have a nice surprise by EOY

Do we have any calcuator for solvency ?

Burg10:03:40 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Right now you need 10% of all JNT to provide solvency for the 1 mil coming from abu dhabi bank. If you think the price is strong now, you'll have a nice surprise by EOY

Dhabi Bank will use it for sure?

Dale Wallace10:04:09 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

kishorerv

Do we have any calcuator for solvency ?

I'm not sure what you mean but isn't it Price * JNT pledged?

Kishore10:05:49 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

I'm not sure what you mean but isn't it Price * JNT pledged?

i guess not , its based on certain factors and parameters , i dont want to say with my half baked knowledge , any admin can confirm this , how is the solvency calculated?

Dale Wallace10:06:54 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I'm pretty sure (price*JNT pledged) / Circulating supply = %Solvency

Dale Wallace10:07:36 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

You'd just need to convert all the circulating currencies into USD$

james cho10:08:41 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

james cho

헐 잘못 올림sorry

Kishore10:17:52 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

I'm pretty sure (price*JNT pledged) / Circulating supply = %Solvency

this is good as long as the citculating supply is less than the pledged JNT , in case if there is a Bond issued with 100 mil , then jibrel DAO has to buy JNT from the market , how does it know how much JNT to buy , what is the price factor if it fluctuates as people will start selling at that stage and the price drops , will DAO keep buying ? Sorry if i am over engineering this

Philippe van Sternberg10:18:01 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

james cho

Hello, my asian friend. Is that you?

Philippe van Sternberg10:20:20 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

kishorerv

Keep dreaming that Jibrel DAO will buy JNT from the market ... this is definitely not going to happen

Kishore10:21:26 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Keep dreaming that Jibrel DAO will buy JNT from the market ... this is definitely not going to happen

Where else do you think its going to get the required JNT from ?

Dale Wallace10:21:43 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Wouldn't buying from the market and increasing the price mean they'd need to buy less?

Philippe van Sternberg10:21:57 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

kishorerv

Where else do you think its going to get the required JNT from ?

Liquidity providers

Dale Wallace10:22:21 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I assume much liquidity will come from liquidity providers

Dale Wallace10:22:35 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

do they buy or borrow from providers?

Philippe van Sternberg10:24:01 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think it's borrowed for a fixed term

Kishore10:24:07 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And where do the liquidity providers get that JNT from ? somewhere in the chain it has to get the JNT from the market

Dale Wallace10:25:12 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

kishorerv

And where do the liquidity providers get that JNT from ? somewhere in the chain it has to get the JNT from the market

There are 22 holders with over 1mil jnt, several would be locked or exchanges but I imagine some will become Liquidity providers

Dale Wallace10:25:38 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Liquidity pools will make it even easier

Philippe van Sternberg10:27:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Many of the top 100 holders just kept their JNT in their wallet. So it wouldn't make a big difference whether they are just in their wallet and/or locked for liquidity reasons

Philippe van Sternberg10:28:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And the 1M JNT limit needs to be reduced sooner or later

Dale Wallace10:29:23 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But will Jibrel allow Liquidity providers before this mid december 1mil usd$ is introduced to the circulating supply or will they have to market buy?

Philippe van Sternberg10:32:21 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Don’t know, but I don't think jibrel itself is allowed to buy from the market.

Kishore10:33:27 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

its all still vague in understanding this Solvency , i guess it would be good if the team can deliver a calculator with the parameters , E.g we give Amount on bond to be issued and the tool calculates the number of JNT required based on current market conditions .

Dale Wallace10:35:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

kishorerv

It would be pretty easy to do with a regular calc if they had all the circulating currencies displayed have a total value in USD but that shouldn't be to hard to figure out anyway since it shows the individual JNT requirement for each Jcurrency.

Yazan @ Jibrel10:36:18 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The on-boarding of licensed entities to provide liquidity is still a manual process, but a self-signup / self-onboarding process for liquidity providers is pretty high on our radar.

Dale Wallace10:37:31 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Unfortunatly I don't have 1mill Jnt so I can't sign up :(

Kishore10:40:20 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

we are all small pawns in this big game , lets just wish jibrel a success

Dale Wallace10:40:40 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

kishorerv

We know current supply is about $911usd if the price doesn't change and they need to cover 1milusd they'll need 16.6mil Jnt. (assuming my math is correct)

Dale Wallace10:42:04 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

kishorerv

we are all small pawns in this big game , lets just wish jibrel a success

I'm am excited and full of anticipation in seeing what happens we will learn more about Jibrel :)

Nas11:14:05 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

Thanks for sharing Youssuf We had talked about Jcash about a year ago, and now we’ve all witnessed the stablecoin craze, and debt is a natural progression, as it’s not practical having a debt pay you out in ETH (imagine how much the returns would have differed across the year) Capital markets is one of the clear smart Contract /DLT use cases.

/DLT

Nas11:14:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Nas

/DLT

Nas11:14:14 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Nas

/DLT

Philippe van Sternberg11:22:28 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Besides, I can't imagine that a licensed entity will buy from exchanges like Bibox or Gate. Bibox only has JNT/BTC/ETH trading pairs. Both BTC and ETH are subject to enormous price volatility and given the fact that the trading volume on Bibox is far too low to fulfill an order of this size and within a reasonable time, it would be to risky to buy with BTC/ETH.

Philippe van Sternberg11:28:04 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Gate is located on the Cayman Islands. This does not make a trustworthy impression on a licensed entity, e.g. from the UAE. BTC and ETH as trading pairs are no option so there is only USDT left but that’s even riskier. Bitfinex/Tether are super shady and stink to high heaven. USDT could lose its entire value in a very short time if Finex bank accounts are seized or if it emerges that they don’t have the liquidity to cover Tether.

Christian Hu11:33:20 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

I don’t think we will be actively listing on any of the current big (centralized) exchanges. Hopefully a real world exchange opens up for crypto soon

Philippe van Sternberg11:34:19 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The frequency of recent changes that Bitfinex has made to its trading platform (change of bank, increased payout fees, introduction of USDT/USD and EURT/EUR tether trading pairs, change in their payment processors) suggests that they are in great difficulty.

Christian Hu11:38:27 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

the DAO will most likely buy JNT from the Jwallet banking platform

Christian Hu11:39:54 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

or partner firm Kambio if they build it up in a compliant manner

Philippe van Sternberg11:41:54 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

If even HSBC, known (in the past) for laundering money for the mafia, drug cartels an terrorists, is looking for the greatest possible distance to Bitfinex and doesn’t want to work with them, you know what's going on. Now their bank is the Deltec Bank & Trust in Nassau, Bahamas. More off-shore is not possible.

Kishore11:42:54 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

or Another option as was in earlier post suggested create a Liquidity pool where retail investors can participate who are fully KYC compliant and anyone who pledge JNT into it will recieve a Fee for a fixed term .

Igor Zubeldia11:43:14 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

And the 1M JNT limit needs to be reduced sooner or later

Pretty logical, but ... why do you think so?

Kishore11:43:15 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

So Both Jibrel and Investors will profit from institutional usage

Philippe van Sternberg11:54:36 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Igor Zubeldia

Pretty logical, but ... why do you think so?

Only a few meet this requirement right now, with a rising price of JNT it will be even more difficult to get 1M. Especially if one considers that more and more JNT will be needed and used to cover liquidity and will therefore not be in circulation. At some point this limit has to be lowered, otherwise they won't find anyone who owns 1M and is willing to provide it for liquidity.

Igor Zubeldia12:01:38 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

thanks. But providers do not lose their JNTs, they block them. If the price rises due to demand, the deposited JNTs cover more JCash than they originally backed, since the solvency panel is updated.

Dale Wallace12:02:56 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Husche

the DAO will most likely buy JNT from the Jwallet banking platform

How does the Jwallet Platform work? Do you still need retail investors using it to sell JNT?

Christian Hu12:05:35 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

How does the Jwallet Platform work? Do you still need retail investors using it to sell JNT?

simple answer: we don’t know yet. Personally I believe we need retail investors only in the short term to provide market liquidity. Later on professionals will take over if they can compliantly trade on the platform

Christian Hu12:07:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

a big chunk of JNT is in the hands of the jibrel team, advisors and early business angels. When they want to move their JNT they will probably do it OTC

Christian Hu12:08:06 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

retail investors will mostly disappear (in %) when prices go up

Jamal Z12:10:01 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Hi everyone, I am really happy to be here and eager to become a core part of the community. I’m very humbled to be joining such a capable team and awesome community. The main goal of this position is to keep the community engaged and more importantly, happy; in order to do that, we need to set the expectations and understand the needs of its members. I have been watching the channel and I’m sensing both enthusiasm and concerns around the project and the blockchain space. These feelings are natural, but crypto startups and builders in the space are pushing harder now more than ever. Seeing the amount of work being done on the ground motivates us to work harder and build on the technology of the future. We can work together in the next few weeks on defining how this community should look like and the results we want to see over the long run. I will do my best to be as accessible and accommodative to all your feedback and suggestions. I look forward to getting to know you all!

Hayyak Allah Ala, welcome bro

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti12:36:51 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

chicoguapo1

What kind of crops do you grow?

Hello. We grew different types of vegetables, every year something else but the last two years we only grow wine.

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti12:42:11 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hello Sir @admin, maybe you can clear that up- is JNT bought from the market or will it be locked from liquidity providers and how is the progress?. I always appreciate answers.

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti12:45:15 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Sorry but my internet speed is not good in Africa, sometimes I have the internet and sometimes not so I don’t know when I can answer or read answer

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Michel13:35:05 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Hello Sir @admin, maybe you can clear that up- is JNT bought from the market or will it be locked from liquidity providers and how is the progress?. I always appreciate answers.

Ala Haddad14:35:12 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey guys, please refer to this medium post for an indepth explanation about proof of solvency: https://medium.com/@jibrelnetwork/jcash-jbonds-and-proof-of-solvency-3b655444cf3f Let us know if you have questions!

Ala Haddad14:37:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@Michelbakk Kungawo

Björn14:42:04 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

I thought you scrapped the idea of jBonds?

MB14:44:46 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

This article is outdated as hell, even I can tell

MB14:44:52 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

That's a lazy answer

Ala Haddad14:52:10 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

That's a lazy answer

Will provide a more detailed and updated answer in a few moments, thanks for keeping us in check, is there a specific question you have now?

RJ 1087914:53:46 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Will provide a more detailed and updated answer in a few moments, thanks for keeping us in check, is there a specific question you have now?

Are J-Bonds still a part of Jibrels plans?

MB14:53:48 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Will provide a more detailed and updated answer in a few moments, thanks for keeping us in check, is there a specific question you have now?

Not really, but as Jibrel is one of the most misunderstood projects in crypto, it is not a good thing to answer community questions by linking old articles

Ala Haddad14:54:27 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Not really, but as Jibrel is one of the most misunderstood projects in crypto, it is not a good thing to answer community questions by linking old articles

Noted, not gonna happen moving forward 👍

MB14:55:10 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We are all looking for clear, precise, up to date answers, that's why I personally am really happy to get a community manager on board

Ala Haddad14:56:21 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We are all looking for clear, precise, up to date answers, that's why I personally am really happy to get a community manager on board

I just recently joined as the community manager and I'm still becoming up to date with the latest information. Those answers will be provided

MB14:57:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

I just recently joined as the community manager and I'm still becoming up to date with the latest information. Those answers will be provided.

Thank you! I'll be the first to read them

Chico Guapo15:05:25 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

I just recently joined as the community manager and I'm still becoming up to date with the latest information. Those answers will be provided.

Glad to have you here Mr.Ala! We will enjoy your presence :)

Ala Haddad15:10:01 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

MB15:14:36 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Also if you can clarify if the abu dhabi deal will be backed 100% by JNT and if there are still plans for exchange listings this quarter that would be great

Björn15:17:18 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Also if you can clarify if the abu dhabi deal will be backed 100% by JNT and if there are still plans for exchange listings this quarter that would be great

It was my understanding that Sukuk bonds will be backed by jCash, which in itself is backed by 75% on-chain JNT and 25% off-chain cash.

Björn15:17:47 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I might be wrong though

Philippe van Sternberg15:19:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Crypto in 2018 is the same as in 2017 - only vice versa. It’s going to be exciting

Tim15:23:18 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ReallyCoolGuy95

It was my understanding that Sukuk bonds will be backed by jCash, which in itself is backed by 75% on-chain JNT and 25% off-chain cash.

I believe Talal had said they'll be backed with JNT and paid out in jCash. He did say the solvency page would be updated to reflect the bond by mid December

Björn15:24:58 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Cnumartyr

I believe Talal had said they'll be backed with JNT and paid out in jCash. He did say the solvency page would be updated to reflect the bond by mid December

I see. Guess we'll just have to be patient.

Korbinian von Obazda15:31:17 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

These are good points for sure

MB15:57:58 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Cnumartyr

I believe Talal had said they'll be backed with JNT and paid out in jCash. He did say the solvency page would be updated to reflect the bond by mid December

That's why we need it clarified

C16:12:06 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

I just recently joined as the community manager and I'm still becoming up to date with the latest information. Those answers will be provided.

You're doing a great job!

Ala Haddad16:16:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

So just to recap what was asked over the past couple hours, the community wants to know updated information about: 1- How solvency is calculated? If a calculator can be provided to determine JNT required based on market conditions. 2- Mechanisms and requirements of liquidty providers and liquidty pools for retail investors 3- Is the Abu Dhabi deal backed 100% by JNT? 4- Exchange related questions - we will not be commenting on those for now but be sure we understand the importance of exchange listing. Anything else that I missed?

In the very near future, we'll have a more streamlined and transparent way of having these questions answered and a resource page for all frequently asked questions to clearly define how we are approaching all our processes. Thanks again MB @ReallyCoolGuy95 Igor @kishorerv Philippe and everyone else! Keep the questions and meaningful discussions coming!

Björn16:24:42 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Sounds good👍

Philippe van Sternberg16:27:59 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

oh no no market crashed again and I got rekt again 😭

Philippe van Sternberg16:28:59 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

thought the crash was over, but it doesn’t seem that way ..

Philippe van Sternberg16:29:45 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

how low are we going to fall??

Kishore16:31:53 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Never a day without tenterhooks in crypto

Philippe van Sternberg16:34:26 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

so true! I think I’ll sell my remaining cryptos and come back when this is over. I’m not psychically made for this market

Philippe van Sternberg16:36:24 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

every day only losses .. how should you endure it?

Ala Haddad16:37:18 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey Philippe, lets keep price discussions on the side, everyone should do their due dilligence and research before investing and everyone is responsible for their own decisions 🙂 Thanks!

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti16:39:53 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

every day only losses .. how should you endure it?

Hey man, always stay positive -like me. I know it is hard sometimes you need to be strong

Philippe van Sternberg16:43:44 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Hey Philippe, lets keep price discussions on the side, everyone should do their due dilligence and research before investing and everyone is responsible for their own decisions 🙂 Thanks!

Oh i am sorry. i didn’t want to start price discussions but show my feelings about the current market situation ..Sorry again 😐

Ala Haddad16:44:37 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Oh i am sorry. i didn’t want to start price discussions but show my feelings about the current market situation ..Sorry again 😐

That's okay, it is understandable.

Philippe van Sternberg16:45:51 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

i’m also a very emotional person, you know.. ok back to jibrel

Michel17:02:05 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Maybe we can do a “questions of the week “ kinda document

Ala Haddad17:03:10 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Michelbakk

Maybe we can do a “questions of the week “ kinda document

Definitely, we're working on a comprehensive FAQ, and then we can take additional questions and inquiries in a "suggestions box" kind of way, how does that sound?

Michel17:04:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Definitely, we're working on a comprehensive FAQ, and then we can take additional questions and inquiries in a "suggestions box" kind of way, how does that sound?

Sounds good , maybe you can curate the questions and the relevant people fill them out. It is then shared here on Twitter reddit etc

Michel17:04:39 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Definitely, we're working on a comprehensive FAQ, and then we can take additional questions and inquiries in a "suggestions box" kind of way, how does that sound?

Where are you based if you don’t mind he question

Ala Haddad17:04:53 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Michelbakk

Sounds good , maybe you can curate the questions and the relevant people fill them out. It is then shared here on Twitter reddit etc

Yes, the plan is to have accessible and straight forward information about all Jibrel products, processes and approaches.

Michel17:05:27 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think we as a community need to promote reddit use also

Ala Haddad17:07:04 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Michelbakk

I think we as a community need to promote reddit use also

As we're creating new content and rolling out products in the near future, Reddit will be more relevant and engagement there will be encouraged.

Tim17:12:42 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think a Monthly Q&A with questions fielded within 24-48 hours after the monthly update is posted and released within a week would be great. As long as it's something that doesn't take a lot of time away from the team.

RJ 1087917:13:12 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

As we're creating new content and rolling out products in the near future, Reddit will be more relevant and engagement there will be encouraged.

Sir when wallet?

Ala Haddad17:14:42 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Cnumartyr

Awesome idea, I'll set something up for November's update, questions pertaining to the update will be taken and then answered ASAP. How does that sound?

Tim17:15:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Awesome idea, I'll set something up for November's update, questions pertaining to the update will be taken and then answered ASAP. How does that sound?

Sounds great.

Ala Haddad17:15:56 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

RJ999999

Sir when wallet?

More info on this will be posted in the monthly update

RJ 1087917:16:58 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

1 year on and no wallet....

Howard17:25:28 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Awesome idea, I'll set something up for November's update, questions pertaining to the update will be taken and then answered ASAP. How does that sound?

question and answer session would be very helpful after each update

Howard17:33:32 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

More info on this will be posted in the monthly update

you guys should also consider going back and editing/removing the medium articles that are outdated or not relevant in order to prevent confusion for newer people interested in jibrel

Ala Haddad17:36:20 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard

you guys should also consider going back and editing/removing the medium articles that are outdated or not relevant in order to prevent confusion for newer people interested in jibrel

Marketing team is working on that as we speak

Howard17:37:34 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Marketing team is working on that as we speak

can't wait to read them again :)

Tim17:39:21 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

How big is the marketing team and what is their current primary focus / tasks?

Björn17:42:38 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think Yazan said something last friday about new marketing team members starting this week.

Ala Haddad17:47:30 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Cnumartyr

How big is the marketing team and what is their current primary focus / tasks?

Marketing team is now composed of 3 employees with the primary focus of revamping Jibrel's information, content, and approach to prospective clients and users.

Tim17:48:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Marketing team is now composed of 3 employees with the primary focus of revamping Jibrel's information, content, and approach to prospective clients and users.

Good info, thanks!

Philippe van Sternberg17:51:34 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

RJ999999

1 year on and no wallet....

you are so right .. 1 year and no wallet ..even though they said it’s around the corner (that still triggers aggression in me), soon ..android first... 1 year and no exchange, not a SINGLE one.. instead we got hacked on Coinrail and lost this exchange.. then DEX issue ... now we’ll lose the next exchange Kucoin... we have a trading volume of under $30k!!! NO MAYOR EXCHANGE WILL LIST US WITH THIS TRADING VOLUME!! They only list cryptos with high trading volume to profit from the high trading fees.. from beginning I heared Bitfinex, Binance and Bittrex and now we have nothing... 1 year and still no signs of marketing .. not even a simple mail newsletter to inform investors. EVERYONE, in this space is doing mail newsletter.. i’be seen so many crap ICOs and even they had one.. then jcash .. not really functionally and used.. only the onboarding and few UI issues needs to be improved/fixed ..they said.. and then Yazan said something like “we haven't really been actively pushing Jcash at the moment, we'll need to rebuild a lot of the architecture”!!! ...then liquidity providers self-signup has high priority.. it was promised to be released soon ... still NOTHING. and what makes me really mad is that they now have $30M. it was originally our money. sure, we gave it to them for useless virtual tokens .. JNT price dropped really hard but it is fine for them because now they and their “partners” can buy from us with a huge discount ... With money that once belonged to us and that makes it even more difficult.. Sorry, but that was long overdue.

Howard17:53:38 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

you are so right .. 1 year and no wallet ..even though they said it’s around the corner (that still triggers aggression in me), soon ..android first... 1 year and no exchange, not a SINGLE one.. instead we got hacked on Coinrail and lost this exchange.. then DEX issue ... now we’ll lose the next exchange Kucoin... we have a trading volume of under $30k!!! NO MAYOR EXCHANGE WILL LIST US WITH THIS TRADING VOLUME!! They only list cryptos with high trading volume to profit from the high trading fees.. from beginning I heared Bitfinex, Binance and Bittrex and now we have nothing... 1 year and still no signs of marketing .. not even a simple mail newsletter to inform investors. EVERYONE, in this space is doing mail newsletter.. i’ve seen so many crap ICOs and even they had one.. then jcash .. not really functionally and used.. only the onboarding and few UI issues needs to be improved/fixed ..they said.. and then Yazan said something like “we haven't really been actively pushing Jcash at the moment, we'll need to rebuild a lot of the architecture”!!! ...then liquidity providers self-signup has high priority.. it was promised to be released soon ... still NOTHING. and what makes me really mad is that they now have $30M. it was originally our money. sure, we gave it to them for useless virtual tokens .. JNT price dropped really hard but it is fine for them because now they and their “partners” can buy from us with a huge discount ... With money that once belonged to us and that makes it even more difficult.. Sorry, but that was long overdue.

signature "three period" style of writing...is that you hans?

Ala Haddad17:54:09 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

you are so right .. 1 year and no wallet ..even though they said it’s around the corner (that still triggers aggression in me), soon ..android first... 1 year and no exchange, not a SINGLE one.. instead we got hacked on Coinrail and lost this exchange.. then DEX issue ... now we’ll lose the next exchange Kucoin... we have a trading volume of under $30k!!! NO MAYOR EXCHANGE WILL LIST US WITH THIS TRADING VOLUME!! They only list cryptos with high trading volume to profit from the high trading fees.. from beginning I heared Bitfinex, Binance and Bittrex and now we have nothing... 1 year and still no signs of marketing .. not even a simple mail newsletter to inform investors. EVERYONE, in this space is doing mail newsletter.. i’ve seen so many crap ICOs and even they had one.. then jcash .. not really functionally and used.. only the onboarding and few UI issues needs to be improved/fixed ..they said.. and then Yazan said something like “we haven't really been actively pushing Jcash at the moment, we'll need to rebuild a lot of the architecture”!!! ...then liquidity providers self-signup has high priority.. it was promised to be released soon ... still NOTHING. and what makes me really mad is that they now have $30M. it was originally our money. sure, we gave it to them for useless virtual tokens .. JNT price dropped really hard but it is fine for them because now they and their “partners” can buy from us with a huge discount ... With money that once belonged to us and that makes it even more difficult.. Sorry, but that was long overdue.

Noted, we understand where you are coming from, but you also have to appreciate that building secure world class software takes time. As mentioned, the team is currently pushing to address all those valid concerns.

Philippe van Sternberg17:54:22 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard

signature "three period" style of writing...is that you hans?

no, I am not hans

Ala Haddad17:57:17 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://www.coindesk.com/g20-leaders-pledge-crypto-asset-regulation-after-buenos-aires-meeting Interesting take from the G20.

Tarek17:59:14 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://www.coindesk.com/g20-leaders-pledge-crypto-asset-regulation-after-buenos-aires-meeting

Tarek18:00:00 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Interesting.. goes to show the depth of the vision the Jibrel founders had a long time ago

Philippe van Sternberg18:05:36 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

thank you .. reallly. I understand, but we've been told that so many times.. now 1 year is almost over and whats left are still promises and a low JNT price. I am out of money, need to pay bills and are forced to sell my JNT and other cryptos.. partly it is my mistake.. but i really get aggressive when a multi billion $ bank can now buy my JNT from me with that huge discount.. because i believed in jibrel and i took the bigger risk and only people like us made this possible,.

Ala Haddad18:09:32 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

The team appreciates your support.

Philippe van Sternberg18:27:24 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

okay thank u again. Please tell them about my idea, too. My idea is that Jibrel & Partners are only allowed to buy JNT if the price is above the issue price of $0.25 again. Only then it would be fair to the ICO investors, because otherwise you would buy back tokens cheaper from them with their money. This is a tactic Bitfinex is using .. selling Tether for Crypto and then buying Tether back at a lower price .. guaranteed profit ... but it's morally reprehensible to buyers. i never thought jibrel will do anything like that.. and it’s still hard to imagine... please talk about that too

Ala Haddad18:28:00 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Noted.

Yazan @ Jibrel18:30:15 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Thought I'd share my two-cents. I remember when Bitfinex did this, but it was a bit different, they effectively gave people IOUs, and had them exchange this with other users to liquidate. Which was really messed up, but a bit different than buying-back (which is reprehensible, but what Bitfinex actually did was completely inappropriate and several magnitudes worse). You can read about that here: https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/bitfinex-never-repaid-their-tokens-bitfinex-started-a-ponzi-scheme-86a9291add29

Philippe van Sternberg18:31:19 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Noted.

Thx Ala, your doing a great job. very sensitive.. And $0.25 is not hard to reach soon if they deliver what they promised the whole time

Yazan @ Jibrel18:31:23 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

With Jibrel, we aim to be transparent and honest actors. It's the easiest way to stand out / shine positively, is to include the community in major decisions, gauge feedback, etc. For example, we refunded several millions dollars worth for Presale users, who bought-in before ETH appreciated by X3. To ensure it was fair for everyone.

Yazan @ Jibrel18:31:39 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We'll constantly apply that methodology, of fairness, honestly and transparency.

Yazan @ Jibrel18:32:24 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

If for Solvency Jibrel has to acquire more tokens, the community will be notified, we will share with full visibility our plans, etc. If at that point you disagree with the approach taken, you can let us know here, or DM us, and we'll happily take it into account.

Philippe van Sternberg18:33:35 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

Ok thank you guys. This is fair ✌️

Howard18:34:15 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

with the 1 million usd sukuk going into effect, wont SEED have to buy JNT from the markets? currently the 5 million jnt pledged will not be enough.

Philippe van Sternberg18:35:53 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

But how soon will you release this information? 1 day, week, month before you buy? there needs to be some time in between so that i can contact you to disagree

Yazan @ Jibrel18:36:19 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

But how soon will you release this information? 1 day, week, month before you buy? there needs to be some time in between so that i can contact you to disagree

Agreed. For full transparency: 1. The ambition is to have new liquidity providers provide the additional JNT (who will source it themselves). 2. There are also some complications around UAE regulation / certain laws preventing banks from dealing with "Virtual Currency" but I think that's hopefully resolved.

Yazan @ Jibrel18:36:48 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

3. We're trying to contact JNT whales to become liquidity providers as well, where they can earn fees on their JNT for pledging it

Yazan @ Jibrel18:37:18 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Effectively, we want to start creating a P2P ecosystem, where people are locking up JNT to capture part of the fee share, and other users are converting ETH to Stable Coins.

Howard18:37:45 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

i see. so because of those laws, the 250 million pledged from SEED wont be used for now.

Jimmy RUssle18:37:49 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I completely understand why Satoshi chose to remain anonymous.

Howard18:37:56 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

thank you for explaining

Philippe van Sternberg18:38:57 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Would you advice new liquidity providers to acquire required JNT from exchanges like Bibox or Gate?

Philippe van Sternberg18:39:25 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

In my opinion, that would be unacceptable.

Howard18:39:37 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

do the new liquidity providers need to reside in a certain region or will you open it up to anyone as long as kyc/aml passes?

Yazan @ Jibrel18:40:11 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

In my opinion, that would be unacceptable.

Our preference is contacting people with big buckets of JNT and getting them to be liquidity providers.

Jimmy RUssle18:40:12 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

How many JNT to qualify as a whale? I'm definitely up there

Yazan @ Jibrel18:40:32 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We're debating what the minimum should be (it's somewhere between 1MN and 5MN JNT)

Philippe van Sternberg18:40:37 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Right now there are almost no other possibilities to buy JNT if you don’t buy on those crap exchanges.

Philippe van Sternberg18:42:48 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Thanks for your time Yazan

Yazan @ Jibrel18:43:37 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Thanks for your time Yazan

Happy to help! I'm still hopeful of getting one of the bigger exchanges before the end of the year, and we're really pushing, but we are at the mercy of the exchanges and their fees.

Thomas Maxwell18:44:31 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

using whales to provide liquidity allows them to earn something for locking in the JNT, but the people who aren't considered a whale will not really get any benefit from it seeing as the market price won't adjust because JNT are being bought off-market...I understand this might be necessary to start due to low liquidity but it also seems like something that's only recently been thought of as I haven't seen it being discussed before?

Kishore18:44:50 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

3. We're trying to contact JNT whales to become liquidity providers as well, where they can earn fees on their JNT for pledging it

I am not going to jump into conclusions here but I would disagree as in this scenario should be all retail investors ( preferably ICO investors ) , Benefits should be reaped by every JNT holder irrespective , you could have a Min Cap on how much a investor brings into the pool , so the fee sharing wouldnt be messy , this would potentially increase the market Volume of JNT if they see a sustainable fee every Month/Quarter.

Philippe van Sternberg18:46:23 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think this whale limit is just for the beginning

MB18:48:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

Happy to help! I'm still hopeful of getting one of the bigger exchanges before the end of the year, and we're really pushing, but we are at the mercy of the exchanges and their fees.

Don't major exchanges help with jnt liquidity, which is important for proof of solvency? Do the fees really outweigh the benefits?

MB18:50:30 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Of course, at this stage it's not that important but you got a mil coming and at current price and liquidity will it really work? 16 mil jnt to back it and all it takes is one whale to destroy the price

Howard18:52:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

23 addresses have 1 million jnt, 4 are exchanges, 1 is Seeds.

Howard18:53:27 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

leaving 18 people to provide 11+ million jnt

Howard18:53:36 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

seems kinda hard imo.

Howard18:54:00 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

assuming jnt prices remain at .06 cents

Philippe van Sternberg18:55:10 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

Happy to help! I'm still hopeful of getting one of the bigger exchanges before the end of the year, and we're really pushing, but we are at the mercy of the exchanges and their fees.

The exchanges charge such a high listing fee because they have no incentive to list JNT, the trading volume is so low, they would not earn significant trading fees. It is therefore more worthwhile for them to list other cryptos that are already at larger exchanges and have trading volumes in the millions so that they would profit from trading fees. Furthermore, a crypto currency with a daily trading volume of $30k can easily be manipulated and this is also something exchanges are looking at because they pretend to protect their users.

Howard18:55:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

how would you fix it?

Philippe van Sternberg18:56:34 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Only possibly to boost the trading volume on the current exchanges is marketing, make Jibrel more popular

Jimmy RUssle18:56:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think that if you have hype exchanges will list you for free

Philippe van Sternberg18:57:02 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And trading bots of course, but that is not an option i guess :p

Relique18:57:40 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I don't usually post here. I still have full faith in the work ethic and integrity of the team. Also have faith in the tech and the vision on the cryDR and tokenization. The JNT side however feels like a thorn in your side. There doesn't seem to be good direction and plans are constantly changing. Liquidity is a problem because the price is low. Price will continue to be low without buy pressure. Buy pressure will not happen if liquidity is obtained offmarket. The ideal way to fix it will require tech and products that aren't even in development as far as I know

Jimmy RUssle18:58:01 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But then again there's no real benefit to listing JNT on exchanges...... Jcashed needs to be rolled out and Jcash should be marketed

Philippe van Sternberg18:58:03 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yes you have hype and a high trading volume and so they will list you

Philippe van Sternberg18:58:22 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

thats the plan

Philippe van Sternberg18:58:29 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

build first .. market later

Philippe van Sternberg18:59:06 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

but you have to start building..

Howard18:59:08 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

they have 7 pilots atm, those need to come to light and be marketed

Philippe van Sternberg18:59:10 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

and release it

Howard18:59:32 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

so we just have to wait for Jibrel team to do their thing.

Relique19:01:05 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Not talking about the products for financial segment. Just backing the money with JNT is a problem if you aren't putting pressure on the market to raise prices. Picking up 16million from whales, coins that are sitting in wallets anyway, will not solve the problem long term. What happens when you need to back another million USD?

Relique19:01:18 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Eventually whales run out.

Howard19:01:51 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

its probably in the whales best interest to not be a liquidity provider

Relique19:01:58 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Need to either buy from an exchange and raise the price or develop something to sell directly to Jibrel

Howard19:02:02 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

forcing someone to buy jnt from the market

Relique19:02:35 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Current solution does not sound sustainable but what do I know

Relique19:04:27 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Won't need 16 mil. You get the ball rolling market will adjust by raising prices. I think

Howard19:04:59 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

my memory fails me but i remember reading Jibrel was in talks with a new liquidity providor.

MB19:05:50 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Also, what's the plan if a whale goes rogue and decides to send jnt to 1 cent? Will you leave CryDRs insolvent until you or someone starts buying back tokens? Would clients even agree to that?

Howard19:06:06 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

new providor buys tokens, raises prices and hype, makes it easier to list with exchanges, provides solvency, etc.

Howard19:07:04 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Also, what's the plan if a whale goes rogue and decides to send jnt to 1 cent? Will you leave CryDRs insolvent until you or someone starts buying back tokens? Would clients even agree to that?

valid threat.

Alex Patrick19:09:03 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

SELLING JIBREL FOR 800 SATS INTERESTED BUYER CAN CONTACT ME

MB19:09:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I know there's no price discussion because laws, but whales are potential attackers of the system and we would all love to send all whales to become liquidity providers but there's really a chance someone decides to send us to insolvency

Ala Haddad19:10:58 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Also learning here; what incentive would a whale have for doing that?

Howard19:11:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

even if a whale does sell at 1 cent, it would be such a pain in the ass to buy it all back cuz of the low liquidity exchanges.

Howard19:11:39 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Also learning here; what incentive would a whale have for doing that?

create panic, sellers would sell. whale buys back cheaper

MB19:12:59 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Also learning here; what incentive would a whale have for doing that?

This is kind of a proof of stake situation where a whale will hurt himself by destroying the token value, but will you tell banks oh you know why would they do that

MB19:14:17 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Maybe someone wants jibrel to fail for some reason, the system must be fail proof

Howard19:14:48 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

there was a time where a outsider took advantage of our low liquidity, took jnt to .20 cents in a matter of a week, and then crashed it to 10 cents again.

MB19:15:10 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

No 0,001% chance we go insolvent because that defeats all the security of the system

Bihänder19:15:10 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tbh I don't really understand the big advantage in putting a 1 mn+ barrier for getting liquidity providers. I mean why is it more effective to have 1 person lock up 1 mn instead of 10 locking 100000 each.

MB19:18:59 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I'm really passionate about the jibrel vision, it's indeed one of the mosr interesting ideas in this space but with 1 mil backed by JNT, even 750k, with 10 mil marketcap and the potential for any whale to send it straight to insolvency, what's the catch?

MB19:21:59 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Banks wouldn't sign with the conditions we have right now so imo there are 2 outcomes, either the SEED money is coming in or proof of solvency isn't 100% jnt

MB19:22:50 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Which is what most investors are afraid of because we heard a lot of changes in how it works

Howard19:23:01 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Banks wouldn't sign with the conditions we have right now so imo there are 2 outcomes, either the SEED money is coming in or proof of solvency isn't 100% jnt

banks who are interested would be in pilots

Howard19:23:48 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

simple answer. finish those pilots asap and market the crap out of it.

Howard19:24:31 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

with 1 real life application finished, it created a hype from .043 cents to now.

MB19:25:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard

banks who are interested would be in pilots

There's one million confirmed on chain, which will show on the proof of solvency page by mid december. You simply cant tokenize 1 mil with these conditions

MB19:25:36 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What if we go back to 0,03? Nobody has 32 mil jnt

Howard19:27:07 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What if we go back to 0,03? Nobody has 32 mil jnt

i get what youre saying. im completely on board with you.

Howard19:30:45 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

lets wait for the nov update and the followup session

Howard19:31:04 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

hopefully it'll address our concerns

Tim20:37:00 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

We're debating what the minimum should be (it's somewhere between 1MN and 5MN JNT)

At some point though, even the JNT the whales have won't be enough, and further liquidity would have to be provided with market purchases, correct? Which would also increase the amount those whales could tokenize?

억

억만장자21:14:32 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

씨드그룹이 UAE은행법때문에 투자를 못한다는걸 지금 알았다는건 참으로 어이가없네요, 그것도 모르고 지금까지 바보처럼 그냥 있었나요?@Yazan15

Ala Haddad21:21:59 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

억만장자

씨드그룹이 UAE은행법때문에 투자를 못한다는걸 지금 알았다는건 참으로 어이가없네요, 그것도 모르고 지금까지 바보처럼 그냥 있었나요? @Yazan15

Hey, please post in english; Here is the translation : It's not good to know that Seed Group is not going to invest because of the UAE banking law. I don't think that's the case, Yazan mentioned above : There are also some complications around UAE regulation / certain laws preventing banks from dealing with "Virtual Currency" but I think that's hopefully resolved.

Tarek21:54:24 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And SEED group is not a bank

Propagandist22:35:11 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

SEED is off?

Ala Haddad22:41:15 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tymbals

SEED is off?

No, please refer to what was said above.

David22:44:59 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy RUssle

I completely understand why Satoshi chose to remain anonymous.

this made me chuckle 😂

Andrea Sandnegra22:55:04 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jnt

Propagandist22:59:55 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

No, please refer to what was said above.

i didn't have the energy to, thank you

Paul23:28:39 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I can not believe that Jibrel team did not recognize it in advance. The team should have checked the law before signing with SEED. It's really basic.

Ala Haddad23:50:08 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Paul

I can not believe that Jibrel team did not recognize it in advance. The team should have checked the law before signing with SEED. It's really basic.

The team checked the law and are working within regulations, there are many changes in this space and you need to be flexible.

Howard23:54:13 - 03 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

The team checked the law and are working within regulations, there are many changes in this space and you need to be flexible.

I'm not trying to fud here but didn't jibrel announce the partnership with SEED almost over a year ago as a liquidity partner? are you saying they've known about this issue from the get go and have been working on it or it blindsided them recently? if they've known about it, why was it just revealed today.

Ala Haddad00:22:24 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard

The team already understands the regulatory landscape and was not blindsided by this.

Andrea Sandnegra02:51:44 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hi. When can I use jTicker? It's the product I'm most excited about

Roman03:23:19 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Solution could be to find new liquidity providers and let them slowly by market by buyng small amounts in certain periodicall market buys so people holding jnt could comfortably choose when they will sell, like this price would slowly unlock more and more liquidity as there will be more and more people willing to sell as price goes up, the process has to be slow, market buys can come every 10 - 60 seconds for example by really small amounts.

Tim03:31:03 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

It'll be an organic development. As liquidity providers are matched with people tokenizing cash and loans eventually the liquidity providers will have to purchase JNT when they run out.

Tim03:34:01 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

Our preference is contacting people with big buckets of JNT and getting them to be liquidity providers.

Will there eventually be liquidity pools with groups of providers for smaller holders under 1m? Or will the 1m requirement be lowered over time?

Kazi03:35:50 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Whats the Jnt kucoin fud?

Kazi03:36:54 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Have some Jnt there from before let me know if I need to send them to wallet?

Andrea Sandnegra03:49:56 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What is Jabril?

Andrea Sandnegra03:50:33 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Why is Jibril a network?

Andrea Sandnegra03:50:56 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Why not jibril coin

Andrea Sandnegra03:53:33 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Admin no answer my question so far. Jibril has LGBTQ support?

tristan03:55:05 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

go back to biz please

Ala Haddad03:55:28 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey Andrea please don't spam the chat, we do not discriminate at Jibrel. Thanks.

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nikola05:20:48 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

Happy to help! I'm still hopeful of getting one of the bigger exchanges before the end of the year, and we're really pushing, but we are at the mercy of the exchanges and their fees.

Please, do not pay exorbitant fees for listings. This is not a 100 m race, it is a marathon. Stay frugal guys.

Ever For05:24:37 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I agree with that.

Philippe van Sternberg06:46:11 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

NikolaNYC

Please, do not pay exorbitant fees for listings. This is not a 100 m race, it is a marathon. Stay frugal guys.

These are Talals words... Very very wise words.

Talal Tabbaa07:44:48 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard

Hello everyone - not sure what the SEED questions are about, but nothing is stopping SEED from continuing to be a liquidity provider. There aren’t any issues on this front, baseless FUD is not welcome. As for Kucoin, some exchanges have been pushing projects to create artificial volumes to allow them to generate higher fees, and if you have been following us, you would know that is not something that we would consider. We are working with them to reach a solution, but the solution to JNT liquidity will he the additional exchanges coming online as opposed to keeping Kucoin live (which historically barely had any JNT trading)

MB07:48:46 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

So we should expect a kucoin delisting?

Frank Stanley07:49:23 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

Thank you for not being logical

Damon07:49:40 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

and can we see a new exchange listing in December?

Frank Stanley07:49:51 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Mayer07:50:05 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Does monthly report will upload soon?

Talal Tabbaa07:50:27 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

So we should expect a kucoin delisting?

That is not confirmed - we’ll make sure to inform everyone when the decision is final

Talal Tabbaa07:50:36 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

postcagen

Does monthly report will upload soon?

Yes it will be up on Friday :)

Yazan @ Jibrel07:51:00 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Happy to help! I'm still hopeful of getting one of the bigger exchanges before the end of the year, and we're really pushing, but we are at the mercy of the exchanges and their fees.

Damon07:51:08 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

That is not confirmed - we’ll make sure to inform everyone when the decision is final

Please answer me

L联

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联系contact：@penglili22

Mayer07:51:46 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Thanks for quickly reply.

Mayer07:51:54 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Talal Tabbaa07:52:12 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

dominopiz

and can we see a new exchange listing in December?

Yes but as you are aware exchanges list as per their timelines - we’ve finalized agreements with several so are still optimistic for December listings

Damon07:53:16 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

Yes but as you are aware exchanges list as per their timelines - we’ve finalized agreements with several so are still optimistic for December listings

Thanks for quickly reply

Damon07:53:22 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

:)))

Damon07:54:21 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

Yes but as you are aware exchanges list as per their timelines - we’ve finalized agreements with several so are still optimistic for December listings

if the exchange is concluded to be listed in Q4 in 2018, it is possible :)

Howard08:01:29 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

sorry Talal, my question was just based on what Yazan has said previously. perhaps I misunderstood him meaning: Agreed. For full transparency: 1. The ambition is to have new liquidity providers provide the additional JNT (who will source it themselves). 2. There are also some complications around UAE regulation / certain laws preventing banks from dealing with "Virtual Currency" but I think that's hopefully resolved.

Howard08:02:02 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

sorry again.

Jimmy08:03:13 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard

sorry Talal, my question was just based on what Yazan has said previously. perhaps I misunderstood his meaning: Agreed. For full transparency: 1. The ambition is to have new liquidity providers provide the additional JNT (who will source it themselves). 2. There are also some complications around UAE regulation / certain laws preventing banks from dealing with "Virtual Currency" but I think that's hopefully resolved.

I wouldn’t worry too much about Jibrel having challenges that they can not overcome especially with them collaborating with ADGM and FSRA.

Howard08:03:58 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

I wouldn’t worry too much about Jibrel having challenges that they can not overcome especially with them collaborating with ADGM and FSRA.

agreed, hence my skeptiskem and just wanted clarification.

Damon08:04:15 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

I wouldn’t worry too much about Jibrel having challenges that they can not overcome especially with them collaborating with ADGM and FSRA.

agree

bird Sky08:26:40 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ㅇ

Mr. LEE (JNT)08:33:26 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://www.alhilalbank.ae/news/al-hilal-bank-executes-the-world-s-first-blockchain-sukuk-transaction Public notice on AL HILAL BANK homepage !!!!!! Have you ever seen the official announcement made by the bank?This is a solid achievement.

Mayer08:34:39 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

HOON0526

Great!

Damon08:36:13 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

HOON0526

awesome!

Mr. LEE (JNT)08:38:44 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

For those of you in the telegram chat room, have you ever seen a government bank announce a blockchain company directly?

Damon08:39:04 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

HOON0526

“Al Hilal Bank , one of the fastest-growing banks in the UAE, is a 100% government-owned Islamic bank based in Abu Dhabi.”

Mr. LEE (JNT)08:39:25 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

It's my first time seeing you. Only the jibrel network is new.

Mr. LEE (JNT)08:42:09 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Each country...Regulations are being made. If there are regulations coming up...jibrel will lead the way at the fastest pace. Because...The government bank made it official. Today!

Damon08:43:04 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

HOON0526

Each country...Regulations are being made. If there are regulations coming up...jibrel will lead the way at the fastest pace. Because...The government bank made it official. Today!

awesome!

Jimmy08:56:34 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

HOON0526

For those of you in the telegram chat room, have you ever seen a government bank announce a blockchain company directly?

Hardly any Fintech/Blockchain crypto ever get close to POCs with any FIs let alone having an official announcement from an FI. Only other crypto I see is Ripple. With that being said Ripple and Jibrel have completely different use cases.

Deng09:00:37 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

I wouldn’t worry too much about Jibrel having challenges that they can not overcome especially with them collaborating with ADGM and FSRA.

I agree with you

Jimmy09:04:02 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

I agree with you

Hey buddy... 🙌 🙌 🙌

Deng09:04:41 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think the exchange is not a key element.

Deng09:05:26 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

If the liquidity provider can get a good profit,They will buy more JNTs to lock.

Deng09:05:49 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Even if he can only buy JNT at IDEX

Deng09:07:00 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Only when profits fall to a certain level, they will stop buying more JNTs.

Deng09:08:05 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The demand for JNT depends on the business volume of the Jibrel network.

Damon09:26:21 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

The demand for JNT depends on the business volume of the Jibrel network.

I agree with your opinion

Denis M09:38:00 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Smart Sukuk's ftw

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Chico Guapo10:41:58 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Together we will change the Sukuk Business ;))))

Denis M10:45:26 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

chicoguapo1

Together we will change the Sukuk Business ;))))

Quite a rapid growing asset class I see

Deng11:18:11 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Denis M

Smart Sukuk's ftw

Excuse me,what is ftw?

Philippe van Sternberg11:18:26 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

chicoguapo1

Together we will change the Sukuk Business ;))))

Yes, Sirs let’s do business together and change the world. Soon the world is not anymore the way it used to be.

Real Airdrops11:21:47 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Pops11:34:33 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Clean up please @arhadd

Mayer11:36:37 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

/start@daysandbox_bot

Dale Wallace11:39:58 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

Excuse me,what is ftw?

FTW = for the win, used in an encouraging way is like you can do it! go for it!

Deng11:41:15 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

FTW = for the win, used in an encouraging way is like you can do it! go for it!

thank you

Neuthor11:52:26 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And we can do it... i feel it!! My feelings never deceive me..

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:58:26 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hello everybody how are you today?

Deng11:59:56 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey Kungawo，your English is very good.

Deng12:00:45 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

How did you get in touch with Jibrel in Africa?

Deng12:01:38 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Many people in Africa know Jibrel?

Denis M12:06:43 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

Many people in Africa know Jibrel?

Yes Kunagawo I'm curious to know as well.. :)

Deng12:48:58 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hei guys,I feel very excited about the changes that will be shown on the Proof of Solvency page.

Deng12:50:24 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

In this long bear market, I think Jibrel will gain more market share.

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti13:47:44 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

Hey Kungawo，your English is very good.

Thank you I didn’t think my English was very good :)

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti13:47:59 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I learned about Jibrel on Coinmarketcap

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti13:48:50 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I liked the name Jibrel and checked out their website

Deng13:51:11 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

I liked the name Jibrel and checked out their website

Wow, it’s awesome.

Jackly13:54:28 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Chico Guapo13:55:55 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Thank you I didn’t think my English was very good :)

Which African country are you from?

Ala Haddad15:03:37 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

jackly1

Hey Jackly, welcome to the Jibrel community?

QuanBot16:44:18 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Which office should we place this award in? ▪️ Dubai ▫️ New York ▪️ St Petersburg ▫️ Zug

Jimmy16:46:24 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Nice! Put it in the NYC office. Also tweet this and have community go “Like” and “Retweet”... 💪

QuanBot16:46:38 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Which office should we place this award in? ▪️ 33% (1) Dubai 🔸🔸🔸🔸 ▫️ 66% (2) New York 🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸🔸 ▪️ 0% St Petersburg ▫️ 0% Zug 👥 3 - gross votes

Jimmy RUssle16:47:13 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

Philippe van Sternberg16:47:47 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Who gave you this award?

Jimmy16:48:23 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

It would be great to have it in the Dubai office however I think most people coming into the Dubai office would already know that Jibrel have a partnership with Al Hilal Bank. This award would have a bigger impact and “wow” factor in the NYC or Zug Office.🏦

Philippe van Sternberg16:49:07 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Don’t give it to the russians

Ala Haddad16:51:32 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Who gave you this award?

Hilal presented this as a token of appreciation and as a celebration for the transaction 🙂

Philippe van Sternberg16:53:03 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ok cool gift

Jimmy RUssle17:04:07 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think you should auction it off to the community and use the proceeds to fund development.

Philippe van Sternberg17:06:25 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I start with a bid of $50 for this thing

Björn17:07:03 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I don't think they're gonna sell it..

Ala Haddad17:07:25 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Appreciate the interest guys but I think we're keeping this one 🙂

Tim17:10:28 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Clearly Dubai. It's where you got the award

Chico Guapo18:47:34 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

You will auction off this gift?

Dragos19:10:13 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfGWMPwgSoK_XxJZghRoKtZN9mjwX2HWr1tKdsu5yhYE3sPgg/viewform?usp=pp_url&entry.1847249006=@dragos

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Sean Lo20:36:02 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Just wondering, are there any results for more pilot programs that are planned (not a promise) for the next few months? Or will it be years? :)

Sean Lo20:36:37 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Release of results i mean.

Ala Haddad20:39:59 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Sean Lo

Just wondering, are there any results for more pilot programs that are planned (not a promise) for the next few months? Or will it be years? :)

Hey Sean, results of pilots will be shared as soon as all the legal arrangements and requirements are met, as well as the successful application of transactions of real world value. Just like the hilal update, the team waited until the transaction went through to announce the results. Pilot programs are an essential part of Jibrel's plan moving forward. Let us know if you have any more questions.

Howard21:26:17 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

was the sukuk with al hilal the pilot labeled as "early status" in the oct update?

Ala Haddad21:35:42 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Howard

was the sukuk with al hilal the pilot labeled as "early status" in the oct update?

More on this will be in the upcoming monthly update!

Howard21:38:27 - 04 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

More on this will be in the upcoming monthly update!

thanks!

Pogues00:05:48 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/a36cn8/a_memento_for_jibrel_network_recognising_the/?utm_source=reddit-android

Pogues00:05:54 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Upvote for visibility

Tim00:12:27 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Love the award, but from that angle it looks like Jibrel is photo shopped on.

Frank Stanley00:28:15 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

https://www.reddit.com/r/CryptoCurrency/comments/a36cn8/a_memento_for_jibrel_network_recognising_the/?utm_source=reddit-android

Please delete this, the CC mods are very strict about their rules

Frank Stanley00:28:28 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Thanks for sharing anyway

Pogues00:31:49 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Thinkery

Please delete this, the CC mods are very strict about their rules

I didn't post this

Frank Stanley00:33:06 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

I didn't post this

Doesn’t matter. You shared it in this TG asking for upvotes.

Pogues00:33:42 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Thinkery

Doesn’t matter. You shared it in this TG asking for upvotes.

Done

Frank Stanley00:34:09 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

Done

Thank you!

Channel_Bot01:31:42 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Sean Lo01:47:11 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

That's definitely not halal. 😂

Jimmy RUssle01:49:37 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

THIS IS SUPER HARAM SHAME ON YOU

Deng02:10:02 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Nice! Put it in the NYC office. Also tweet this and have community go “Like” and “Retweet”... 💪

kkk02:16:51 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

需要请私聊 @CCCCindy 微信1032815300

Damon04:34:15 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

When is the November report coming out?

Ala Haddad04:53:18 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Friday

Damon04:56:07 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Friday @dominopiz

thanks admin :)

MB06:47:46 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Will we have a wallet by 2025?

Channel_Bot07:00:54 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

❤️心动不如行动，很好的软件❤️

Karen07:11:25 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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A07:24:35 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We will have it the moment you stop complaining :)

MB07:37:21 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ahabha

We will have it the moment you stop complaining :)

Thanks

Gilean07:40:21 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hi @arhadd ! What do you think, when Jibrel will work on full engine, with all its core features implemented and actively used? How long would it take according to plan?

Christian Hu07:52:35 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ahabha

We will have it the moment you stop complaining :)

am mia08:02:07 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://t.me/joinchat/ID9Rm1K2CriEUUvM7oLw2w

Igor Zubeldia08:46:52 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ahabha

We will have it the moment you stop complaining :)

False. Stop marginalizing anyone who has reasonable doubts to raise. sarcasm of him, more than admissible, comes in all likelihood of his boredom having been pantied so many times without a dignified response (despite doing so based on statements outright unfulfilled). The recriminable message is yours, not yours. Have some respect.

Igor Zubeldia08:51:37 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And since it's the first time I tell you, I'll do it "please". But do not forget it. Again please.

Igor Zubeldia09:01:52 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Friday @dominopiz

Halal, please ..., without claiming private details at all, of course ... do you know if, on Friday's update, information will be added beyond the technical aspect of the evolution of the project? (I mean expose something about the progress in events that we have attended, new partnners such as Hilal Bank, etc - the truth is that a report in that line would be a good claim in these bad times -). Thank you.

Alan Yu09:04:49 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

interesting haha

Alan Yu09:05:14 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

what is the price now?

Tomislav09:13:02 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hi guys! How does one log out of jWallet?

TsarBuig09:16:44 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tomislav

Hi guys! How does one log out of jWallet?

How does one log in 😂😂

Philippe van Sternberg09:17:41 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Will we have a wallet before 2025?

I don’t know, Sir. But what I do know is that we dropped like 14% on Gate today and that BTC whales and manipulators are not satisfied with $3,7k as a bottom... the whole situation seems hopeless but I’ trying not to give up hope..

Philippe van Sternberg09:19:26 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I almost went all in in Jibrel tokens so this drop affects me very much. I don’t have a plan B.

TsarBuig09:19:40 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

It's not hopeless... We "just" have to release a product

MB09:20:15 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

I almost went all in in Jibrel tokens so this drop affects me very much. I don’t have a plan B.

I'm unironically all in

MB09:21:03 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And I keep my tokens on kucoin

MB09:21:06 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Roast me

Tomislav09:21:07 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Giving out hope? Now it starts to get fun. Stay optimistic and bullish.

Dale Wallace09:21:16 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I'm unironically all in

I'm as all in as I can get without borrowing.

Dale Wallace09:22:47 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And I keep my tokens on kucoin

Please use a hardware wallet I had 100,000Jnt stolen because I wasn't using a hardware wallet.

Ballast09:22:48 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think i will be kicking myself in 3 years for not going all in on this project

Ballast09:23:14 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

Please use a hardware wallet I had 100,000Jnt stolen because I wasn't using a hardware wallet.

Oh. My. God.

Dale Wallace09:25:13 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

BALLAST2

I think i will be kicking myself in 3 years for not going all in on this project

This thought is what gets me through the bear markets, keep your eyes looking forward not at the ground.

Ballast09:26:32 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

This thought is what gets me through the bear markets, keep your eyes looking forward not at the ground.

Agreed. How/where from did you have your jibs stolen?

Tomislav09:26:37 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

BALLAST2

I think i will be kicking myself in 3 years for not going all in on this project

Same. I'm hoping this price stays low or even lower for at least a few quarters for me to reap some profits on other non crypto projects I'm in now so that I can dive in more in JNT. If it shoots up in the meantime I will be okay too :) I'm very very optimistic for the next year.

Ballast09:27:22 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tomislav

Same boat as you

Philippe van Sternberg09:28:19 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tomislav

Giving out hope? Now it starts to get fun. Stay optimistic and bullish.

How to stay bullish in such a bear market... that’s suicide.. ahh ok tom lee said btc will be worth $15k eoy .. i believe him so now I’m bullish. hopefully this nice guy is right because otherwise i will lose tons of money

Philippe van Sternberg09:31:05 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

TsarBuig

It's not hopeless... We "just" have to release a product

that only works in a bull market. Now the release of a product, for example the wallet, would not affect the price ... unfortunately..

Philippe van Sternberg09:31:37 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

Please use a hardware wallet I had 100,000Jnt stolen because I wasn't using a hardware wallet.

What wallet did you use?

Dale Wallace09:32:01 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

It was myetherwallet

MB09:32:44 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

It was myetherwallet

But how?

Tomislav09:32:46 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Don't listen to anyone. Including me. Where do you see crypto in a year or 2? Think about STOs that are coming and the role that Jibrel Network could play in tokenizing EVERYTHING. I've been through this several times now in crypto and I'm learning...

Tomislav09:33:39 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I feel we have at least a couple more boom and bust cycles ahead...

Dale Wallace09:33:54 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But how?

https://cryptoslate.com/myetherwallet-hola-vpn-compromised-user-accounts-exposed/

Tomislav09:34:10 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Now is the time for positioning.

MB09:34:18 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jibrel is worth a top 50 spot just by being involved with UAE banks

Philippe van Sternberg09:34:31 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tomislav

I see BTC at >$100 in two years..

MB09:34:35 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But the bear market makes investors blind

Tomislav09:35:16 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But the bear market makes investors blind

Same as the bull market :) almost no one was selling near the ath

Tomislav09:35:57 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

I see BTC at >$100 in two years..

If you meant >100K I agree

Dale Wallace09:36:13 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tomislav

Same as the bull market :) almost no one was selling near the ath

This is exactly why planning for the future is essential.

Ali09:37:33 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Igor Zubeldia

Not marginalizing. That’s not how you state that you have doubts. And if you share your doubts every day, it becomes annoying. Please express your concerns but if you have nothing else to do, don’t spam the channel with useless questions / claims. Good discussions are more than welcome, random claims are not.

Philippe van Sternberg09:37:33 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The entire crypto room is still significantly overvalued

Tomislav09:37:48 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

This is exactly why planning for the future is essential.

Yes. Take emotions out. Cover your day ro day expenses. Devise position strategy as well as exit strategy. Execute without hesitation, emotions or regret.

Philippe van Sternberg09:39:56 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

more than 95% of all crypto projects haven’t release anything and are just hot air. they have a nice looking website and whitepaper.. like in the dotcom bubble

Tomislav09:42:52 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

more than 95% of all crypto projects haven’t release anything and are just hot air. they have a nice looking website and whitepaper.. like in the dotcom bubble

Agreed. Don't frett. I think we have a very good team here. The best way if one cannot handle this depression is to store the access info somewhere safe, forget about crypto entirely and focus on other aspects of life... You will be notified in the media when they start announcing that BTC is at record high... Then log back in and be surprised. I've done that in the past... It is a great feeling.

Philippe van Sternberg09:43:06 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

btc.. market cap of $67B ... a week ago i made a btc transfer with an appropriate fee and the confirmation took like 3 hours .. even a PayPal transfer is faster and more convenient ... btc it is not a store of value... it is not an accepted payment method and it’s not a currency..

Dale Wallace09:43:32 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Do you own BTC?

Tomislav09:43:33 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

It is not faster... Don't be mislead.

Philippe van Sternberg09:43:39 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

hell no

Dale Wallace09:43:50 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

hell no

Then don't stress

Philippe van Sternberg09:43:52 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I only short BTC

Tomislav09:43:55 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I have a business.

Tomislav09:44:18 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Even if you pay me with visa or paypal, trust me I won't get that money in weeks...

Tomislav09:44:52 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

In case of paypal I'm not even sure I will get it at all

Igor Zubeldia09:45:09 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ahabha

Tell those who distort the timmings so that these doubts are resolved ... the worry about not being normal is normal. And that is not something that is recessive and repetitive, but "not resolved". People come here to solve their doubts about the project, not to receive philosophical treatises. if they do not solve their doubts, the abnormal is not that they are raised until they do so, but that they are taken care of and if they are raised with due respect, the repetition is not reprehensible ... but the inattention. And I leave the topic, because it is not central in the thread.

Dale Wallace09:45:25 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tomislav

I have a business.

I was scammed on paypal last month, never going back there again.

Tomislav09:45:45 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

let that sink in... And that is when compared to the most slow and expensive crypto to transmit (BTC). and now we have things like NANO

Tomislav09:45:58 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

I was scammed on paypal last month, never going back there again.

see my point.

Philippe van Sternberg09:47:17 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dale Wallace

I was scammed on paypal last month, never going back there again.

you can only get scammed on pp of you send funds via friends&family ..

Tomislav09:47:26 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

you can spot a troll when price declines and they come out of the dark claiming that crypto is useless, no adoption, still slower than visa etc... They are so fun and easy to recognize if one has been in this space more than a year.

Tomislav09:47:54 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

you can only get scammed on pp of you send funds via friends&family ..

If you are a merchant you can get scammed very very easy

Dale Wallace09:48:22 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

you can only get scammed on pp of you send funds via friends&family ..

It was a relativly complex situation that seemed to exploit paypals loopholes in their refunds

Philippe van Sternberg09:50:03 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tomislav

If you are a merchant you can get scammed very very easy

Reasonable merchants have an anti fraud system for that

Dale Wallace09:51:09 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

basically they bought 3 gpu's of me, claimed one was faulty requested a refund through paypal sent one back but requested a refund for all 3 which leaves me down significantly.

Dale Wallace09:51:43 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

and I'm left with no way of refuting or challenging the situation.

Philippe van Sternberg09:53:56 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

this seems to be a special case...BTC transactions don't even give you the chance to get a refund..

Dale Wallace09:57:19 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

this seems to be a special case...BTC transactions don't even give you the chance to get a refund..

That'll entirely be the decision of who ever you send it to. Most businesses will have a reputation to uphold.

Philippe van Sternberg10:04:55 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

where are all the self-proclaimed experts and influencers that told you to buy btc when it was at $19k?? where are they now?? only a few are left and they still claim that btc will reach $15k eoy ... let me tell you.. they tricked you and have now disappeared

MB10:07:13 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Bitcoin is the one and only digital gold.

MB10:08:00 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The rest are projects for bussineses with CEOs, leaders, etc

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Alx5w10:33:42 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What is the best offline wallet for storing jnt other than ledger nano?

Jiri10:44:06 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Trezor

Vislow Waris10:52:00 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

SELLING JIBREL FOR 700 SATS INTERESTED PERSON CAN CONTACT ME

Philippe van Sternberg11:05:12 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

jesusvislow

SELLING JIBREL FOR 700 SATS INTERESTED PERSON CAN CONTACT ME

**ESTEEMED SIR! PLACE YOUR SELL ORDER ON GATE OR BIBOX AND I’M HAPPY TO BUY!!**

jRunningRabbit11:12:42 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Lol

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:31:01 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hello, I have a quick question. Am I allowed to buy Jibrel tokens from Mr. Waris? He told me that Jibrel admin @mikaeInaeI will escrow us. I don’t know if it’s against Jibrel rules?

Relique11:31:36 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

You are asking to get scammed. Use an exchange

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:32:06 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Why is it a scam? I don’t think so

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:32:51 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

He is group admin Jibrel

Erik11:32:55 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Why is it a scam? I don’t think so

Are you together in this scam with Mr. Waris?

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:33:33 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I am in a group with Mr. Waris and Mikael

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:35:43 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Now Mr. Waris doesn’t want to sell Jibrel tokens to me because I asked in this Jibrel group if it’s ok to buy :(

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:36:10 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

It was against the rules of the admin Mikael

MB11:36:37 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

It was against the rules of the admin Mikael

Stay safe Kungawo

Mikael11:40:47 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

36AaqXRmky8gweHajmfPfJMnf5CfyVoBTK for btc

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:40:47 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

So I send my bitcoin to this address and get my Jibrel tokens? I don’t understand

Mikael11:41:18 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

you both confirm me after transaction

Thomas Maxwell11:46:08 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo , please do not send anything to that address, they are very likely scamming you

Bk 13 [$JNT]11:49:29 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@arhadd

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti11:49:49 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yes I think it’s scam

Chico Guapo12:11:07 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Beware of scammers. They are plentiful in Crypto

Mikael12:24:17 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

chicoguapo1

Beware of scammers. They are plentiful in Crypto

i am taking care of it.. its not a scam.. don't worry all of you guys

MB12:24:57 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

Yes I think it’s scam

That is not real jibrel admin. It is hidden like chameleon Kungawo

Andrea Sandnegra12:46:51 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Does Jibrel support multiple genders (> 2) ?

Andrea Sandnegra12:48:22 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I hope this community is very inclusive

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti13:02:40 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Haha, he really thought he could scam a South African man:

Korbinian von Obazda13:06:35 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What's going on?

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti13:08:29 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

A guy called Mr. Waris tried to scam me.

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti13:11:54 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

WARNING: ONLY BUY JNT FROM A EXCHANGE!! DO NOT BUY FROM SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO SELL VIA ESCROW/PRIVATE TRADE/OTC IN A PRIVATE CHAT OR GROUP!!

Korbinian von Obazda13:12:12 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Is Mikael still Admin at Jibrel Group?

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti13:14:17 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@mikaelnael and @mikaeInaeI are two different accounts

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti13:14:44 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Check their online time

Korbinian von Obazda13:18:23 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Ah ok perfect

Jimmy13:26:18 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

more than 95% of all crypto projects haven’t release anything and are just hot air. they have a nice looking website and whitepaper.. like in the dotcom bubble

💯

Ala Haddad13:31:13 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Gilean and Igor ; the Friday update will be a comprehensive write up for Jibrels activities, your concerns are natural and we appreciate your consistent intetest, happy to help with anything else.

Igor Zubeldia13:33:13 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Gilean and Igor ; the Friday update will be a comprehensive write up for Jibrels activities, your concerns are natural and we appreciate your consistent intetest, happy to help with anything else.

help with 100,000 JNTs (so I too happy) 😜

Igor Zubeldia13:33:34 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

( a joke, Ala...thanks , of course ).

Ala Haddad13:34:06 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Igor Zubeldia

help with 100,000 JNTs (so I too happy) 😜

😂😂 I feel you Igor

Igor Zubeldia13:35:49 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey, hey ... that the joke was about my happiness. For the hundred thousand, I pass an address in Dm, no problem . 😝

Igor Zubeldia13:36:13 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

wel...good work, ala...thanks ;)

Gilean13:44:30 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Gilean and Igor ; the Friday update will be a comprehensive write up for Jibrels activities, your concerns are natural and we appreciate your consistent intetest, happy to help with anything else.

That is not a concern:) I work as a programmer, so I know, that development takes a long time. Just a plain interest, what feature you see for Jibrel in 5 or more years.

chen renping13:57:32 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

what is the relationship between jnt andADGM? any one knows?

Ala Haddad13:57:38 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Gilean

That is not a concern:) I work as a programmer, so I know, that development takes a long time. Just a plain interest, what feature you see for Jibrel in 5 or more years.

Nice, got it. Other than having all products rolled out and adopted, Ill add that whatever tech in this space is available in 5 years, Jibrel will be on top of it and keeping up with all the features, that's why we are building a strong infrastructure, to be able to pivot and maneuver whatever comes in our way.

Denis M14:02:22 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I formally volunteer to be the first human put on the blockchain for Jibrel.

Denis M14:02:28 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tokenize me

Ali14:04:56 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Denis M

Tokenize me

😂

Deng14:50:19 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tokenize me

Bk 13 [$JNT]15:02:38 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

😅

Philippe van Sternberg15:17:00 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Denis M

Tokenize me

nice, everyone could then buy a part of a human

Philippe van Sternberg15:17:19 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

humans should definitely be tokenized

Philippe van Sternberg15:17:43 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

this has a great future

Philippe van Sternberg15:18:37 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

i’d buy two or three to work for me

Philippe van Sternberg15:19:51 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

it’s like in the past

Philippe van Sternberg15:24:43 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Denis M

I formally volunteer to be the first human put on the blockchain for Jibrel.

No Sir, sorry, but that would be morally unacceptable and not within the law.

Philippe van Sternberg15:24:57 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We cannot do that

Ala Haddad15:25:57 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Denis M

I formally volunteer to be the first human put on the blockchain for Jibrel.

What do you guys think of digital identities?

Philippe van Sternberg15:27:26 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Not good if stolen

Jimmy RUssle15:27:36 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Digital id's purely for online transactions are good. Any ID that links me to the state apparatus is inherently coercive and restricts my freedom and there fore must be destroyed.

Ala Haddad15:30:01 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Not good if stolen

Agreed, many security measures must be taken to have a completely safe decentralized systems, a lot of work is being done in the field and many people are trying to find the solution.

Andrea Sandnegra16:25:47 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We are having a LGBTQ conference right here in Toronto. Does Jibrel want to become a sponsor for our event? :) I would be very happy if we can work something out

Mikael16:27:17 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

@mikaelnael and @mikaeInaeI are two different accounts

Somebody trying to scam you using my telegram name?

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti16:28:10 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yes he wanted to sell me Jibrel tokens

Howard16:37:30 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

mikaelnael

Somebody trying to scam you using my telegram name?

yep, "you" were trying to act as an escrow

Channel_Bot16:38:35 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Ala Haddad16:50:47 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

@mikaelnael Kungawo DM'ed you both

Ala Haddad16:53:41 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Everyone please remember that Jibrel admins will never try to ask you for money or sell you JNT. We also do not give out JNT

Ala Haddad16:57:41 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Furthermore, the only admins that are Jibrel team members are @ttabbaa @Yazan15 @annabordunova and myself @arhadd, everyone else is a volunteer. Please be careful when interacting with anyone over Telegram. Will update the pinned message to reflect this with the monthly update.

Mikael17:02:25 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

This is correct. I am only a volunteer and not an official member of the Jibrel network team. No admin will ever offer to sell you anything or ask for any money.

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Jimmy18:22:14 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

chen renping

what is the relationship between jnt andADGM? any one knows?

Jibrel is collaborating with ADGM and Al Hial Bank to Issue the ‘SmartBlockchain Islamic Sukuk” ~ Bond...

Jimmy RUssle18:34:26 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I just read the wikipedia page for 'Sukuk'. There is no mention of Jibrel yet. I think the tream should edit the article to reflect this important advance in the history of Islamic frinance.

Ala Haddad18:37:12 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy RUssle

I just read the wikipedia page for 'Sukuk'. There is no mention of Jibrel yet. I think the tream should edit the article to reflect this important advance in the history of Islamic frinance.

Great idea, will see if we can pass that edit!

Chad Black18:49:43 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Wikileaks

Ala Haddad19:05:01 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://medium.com/jibrel-network/why-were-building-the-jibrel-network-6294c596abd1 Interesting read from Jibrel from June 2017, preceding the beginning of the bull run and predicting the currency insolvency of crypto companies that did not act responsibly with funds raised.

Ala Haddad19:50:50 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey @EricDoyle and @SWMNYC , welcome to the Jibrel community, let us know if you have any questions!

Jimmy RUssle20:06:27 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Will upcoming marketing efforts be focused on the JNT token or will they be focused more on Jcash?

Ala Haddad20:30:13 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy RUssle

Will upcoming marketing efforts be focused on the JNT token or will they be focused more on Jcash?

All Jcash stable coins are backed by JNT to maintain a decentralized trustless system, so they go hand in hand.

Jimmy RUssle20:39:45 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I understand that. I just don't get what the target market for the solvency token would be.

Björn21:09:18 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-radically-simplifies-kyc-say-abu-dhabi-trial-participants

Ala Haddad21:10:27 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy RUssle

I understand that. I just don't get what the target market for the solvency token would be.

As Yazan mentioned recently: 1. The ambition is to have new liquidity providers provide the additional JNT (who will source it themselves). 2. We're trying to contact JNT whales to become liquidity providers as well, where they can earn fees on their JNT for pledging it Effectively, we want to start creating a P2P ecosystem, where people are locking up JNT to capture part of the fee share, and other users are converting ETH to Stable Coins and paying the required JNT. Does this answer your question?

Ala Haddad21:11:07 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ReallyCoolGuy95

https://www.coindesk.com/blockchain-radically-simplifies-kyc-say-abu-dhabi-trial-participants

So many developments in the space in that region, very positive for the regulatory landscape which Jibrel aims to excel!

MB21:13:42 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

So many developments in the space in that region, very positive for the regulatory landscape which Jibrel aims to excel!

Hello Ala! Will the update go in depth about the sukuk transaction?

MB21:14:52 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Like when it was done, how it works, how proof of solvency works

Ala Haddad21:17:44 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The update will address all Jibrel activities in the past month; I will also post a follow-up forum on Reddit (as the community requested) for any questions that still linger after the update. Appreciate the excitement MB

MB21:18:48 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

That's great, thank you

Christian Hu21:36:54 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy RUssle

I understand that. I just don't get what the target market for the solvency token would be.

what I understood until now is that the products will be marketed, as should be. There is no point in marketing JNT

Christian Hu21:37:31 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jcash will only be the unit of accounting, real adoption can only come from on-chain financial instruments

Jimmy RUssle21:42:55 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Husche

what I understood until now is that the products will be marketed, as should be. There is no point in marketing JNT

That's my thinking as well but.......

Tarek21:48:50 - 05 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Exactly. No real startup markets its stock or shares etc.. they market products

Andrea Sandnegra00:11:33 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

andreaa_1985

We are having a LGBTQ conference right here in Toronto. Does Jibrel want to become a sponsor for our event? :) I would be very happy if we can work something out

@Yazan15

Oscar01:53:16 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

contact / 联系：@markzhen

MB07:35:27 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

If there were no engines, gas would be worthless

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Madoff wasn't on the blockchain07:57:07 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

morning

Philippe van Sternberg08:00:59 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

hello sir

Madoff wasn't on the blockchain08:19:14 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

is this group dead? why no activity??

Madoff wasn't on the blockchain08:20:20 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

other groups only 1k members but more activity

Frank Stanley08:24:45 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

madoffwasntontheblockchain

is this group dead? why no activity??

We are saving our breath for tomorrow’s update

Madoff wasn't on the blockchain08:26:18 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yes

Madoff wasn't on the blockchain08:26:21 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

that makes sense

crypto bobby11:07:11 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hello admin kindly send me pm

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti12:36:08 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I can’t wait to read the update

Madoff wasn't on the blockchain13:06:31 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yes

Madoff wasn't on the blockchain13:06:39 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

me too

Deng13:34:13 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kungawo Anikulapo-Kuti

I can’t wait to read the update

Hey kungawo，What language do you speak in your place?

Deng13:43:12 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

madoffwasntontheblockchain

yes

I am looking forward too

Korbinian von Obazda13:45:15 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Me too too

Pogues14:24:29 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Does anyone know what the liquidity fees paid to the 1million JNT holders will be?

Pogues14:29:40 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And when will the liquidity holders begin to obtain those feese

Deng14:33:12 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

Does anyone know what the liquidity fees paid to the 1million JNT holders will be?

I think fees will be calculated dynamically based on the number of JNTs locked by the liquidity provider and the Trading volume of on-chain assets on the Jibrel network . Just my guess. The official will give an accurate answer as soon as possible.

Pogues14:34:52 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

Good deal, thanks

vivian zhou15:19:37 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

what new news？

vivian zhou15:20:08 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

any news

Ala Haddad15:22:35 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

vivianzhou

what new news？

We're releasing the monthly update tomorrow

vivian zhou15:23:42 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy15:31:15 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

madoffwasntontheblockchain

is this group dead? why no activity??

Calm before the storm my friend...

Pogues16:14:38 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Can't wait for the full JCash/CrDyr system to come online. JNT could be one of the few bright lights in the incoming recession

Korbinian von Obazda17:14:37 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

We're releasing the monthly update tomorrow

Fantastic! Thank you for the update

Philippe van Sternberg17:28:18 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

Calm before the storm my friend...

the storm is already here .. look at BTC chart ... no way this is gonna end well

Korbinian von Obazda17:38:24 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

the storm is already here .. look at BTC chart ... no way this is gonna end well

Rekt city or a nice coffee chart?

Philippe van Sternberg17:41:58 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

totally rekt city

Philippe van Sternberg17:44:01 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

like i already said

Philippe van Sternberg17:44:09 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

this market is not for everyone

Yazan @ Jibrel17:44:35 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yongruideng

This is pretty accurate 🙂

Yazan @ Jibrel17:44:49 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

this market is not for everyone

Tell me about it...

Philippe van Sternberg17:46:17 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Many can’t take the constant new lows

Philippe van Sternberg17:47:25 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Coupled with ignorance and impatience, this is a deadly cocktail

Philippe van Sternberg17:48:05 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

All I’m saying is buy high, sell low..

Philippe van Sternberg17:48:46 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

This year is not like 2017 where we had a new high every day

Philippe van Sternberg17:49:36 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

it’s actually the opposite ..

Björn17:52:02 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

All I’m saying is buy high, sell low..

Great advice, thanks

Tim17:53:27 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Many can’t take the constant new lows

The best thing for these people is to walk away and come back in a year

Korbinian von Obazda17:55:41 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

This year is not like 2017 where we had a new high every day

I do buy from time to time when it gets new ATL because burning money is fun lol

Korbinian von Obazda17:56:01 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The Market in general I mean

Philippe van Sternberg17:57:31 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ReallyCoolGuy95

Great advice, thanks

Don’t mention it. Try it and you’ll see that it’ll greatly enrich your life ✌️

Jimmy17:57:38 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

the storm is already here .. look at BTC chart ... no way this is gonna end well

In terms of whether this channel is dead that is. In terms of BTC that’s a whole different story. 3 Possible scenarios: 1- We have bottomed, and go sideways $3400-4200 2-We haven’t bottomed, still another leg down to around $2500-2,800 3-We have to kill “HOPE”. Go to $1800 or lower Then bears are finished and bulls will kick on the next Bull Market in Q1 2019.

Jimmy17:58:37 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Take this opportunity to pick up some Alts of your choice that’s on firesale and way undervalued because of the 11 months bear market we’ve been in..

Korbinian von Obazda17:58:40 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I always think most wait or try to push the Market lower to enter big after, but could also be just hope hehe

Korbinian von Obazda18:00:38 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But the crash was to expect with all the high valuation of many Projects, in terms of Unicorns

Philippe van Sternberg18:01:16 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

I don’t think bears (including me) are satisfied with the current bottom 🐻

Korbinian von Obazda18:02:25 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think some top 100 have to go lower but slowly some Projects seem fair from value

Kishore18:06:52 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dude this imagery is Sick , can you please Post some positive image everyday

Philippe van Sternberg18:07:20 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

KorbiC

I think some top 100 have to go lower but slowly some Projects seem fair from value

Yes there are some but they arevery very very rare

Philippe van Sternberg18:07:49 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

these have to be found

Kishore18:11:11 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yep , that works :-)

Jimmy18:12:24 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I believe that 2019 - 2020 be a very significant time in history that historians will one day talk about...

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Philippe van Sternberg18:19:04 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

I believe that 2019 - 2020 be a very significant time in history that historians will one day talk about...

Those are indeed very important years, especially 2020, because I will retire there.

Ala Haddad18:32:18 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What do you guys think the next trend is, 2017 was icos, 2018 was stablecoins, 2019??

Korbinian von Obazda18:32:21 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Those are indeed very important years, especially 2020, because I will retire there.

Me too, incredible

Korbinian von Obazda18:33:16 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

What do you guys think the next trend is, 2017 was icos, 2018 was stablecoins, 2019??

OTC for large buy and sells on DEX

Frank Stanley18:33:55 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

What do you guys think the next trend is, 2017 was icos, 2018 was stablecoins, 2019??

Tokenisation of traditional assets

Korbinian von Obazda18:34:37 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Thinkery

Tokenisation of traditional assets

This of course too

Ala Haddad18:35:02 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

KorbiC

OTC for large buy and sells on DEX

Did you see this preview of binance DEX : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN1Uvor4Hd8 ?

Ala Haddad18:35:57 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Thinkery

Tokenisation of traditional assets

With the suitable regulatory landscape, this will definitely be an important trend

Korbinian von Obazda18:35:57 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Did you see this preview of binance DEX : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wN1Uvor4Hd8 ?

Yes but already know better alternatives. :)

Korbinian von Obazda18:36:43 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

With the suitable regulatory landscape, this will definitely be an important trend

Agree!

Frank Stanley18:38:34 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

With the suitable regulatory landscape, this will definitely be an important trend

What about you, Ala? What do you think will be the next hype?

Ala Haddad18:40:28 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

It's a close one for me between custodianship solutions and tokenization of traditional assets.

Frank Stanley18:45:06 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think we are in a good position for 2019 either way :)

Pogues18:54:01 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Would the overall market being what it is, do we hypothesize that's the ultimate reason why the exchanges that have signed and paid agreements with Jibrel, are ultimately not listing?

Pogues18:55:25 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I would think with the low volume JNT currently has, should those listings and agreements become realized, that would make for nice prize for them, even with the current bear market

Pogues19:03:24 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I understand that's a loaded question, but it's more for speculative purposes

Ala Haddad19:04:23 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I understand your train of thought and I'm following, but unfortunately we can't comment on exchanges and listings until finalized deals happen.

Pogues19:08:12 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

I understand your train of thought and I'm following, but unfortunately we can't comment on exchanges and listings until finalized deals happen.

I get NDA's gave to be considered. I hate that JNT is reliant for these exchanges to provide further liquidity, but that's how it goes for now

Pogues19:08:43 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

I understand your train of thought and I'm following, but unfortunately we can't comment on exchanges and listings until finalized deals happen.

I understand the team is doing everything it can in that regards, it sucks to be at the exchanges mercy however

Bk 13 [$JNT]19:12:48 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Is too much stupid think that maybe Jwallet could work as an exchange, where anybody can buy jnt? Or the Jcash dashboard???

Pogues19:16:28 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Bk_1313

Is too much stupid think that maybe Jwallet could work as an exchange, where anybody can buy jnt? Or the Jcash dashboard???

Not stupid at all. That would be a great development

Pogues19:41:05 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

This is pretty accurate 🙂

Can you elaborate more on the fees for the individual liquidity providers? So, if 1 provider has the bare minimum in JNT, the 1million requirement, what type of fees and how will the providers obtain those? I ultimately ask because I'm trying to decide if I want to try and obtain enough to become one

Pogues19:41:54 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

This is pretty accurate 🙂

Additionally, if that's going to be addressed in tomorrow's update, then I can wait till then 🙂

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Yazan @ Jibrel20:10:46 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Bk_1313

Is too much stupid think that maybe Jwallet could work as an exchange, where anybody can buy jnt? Or the Jcash dashboard???

We speak about this at least once a day internally 🙂

Yazan @ Jibrel20:11:22 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

It's definitely on the roadmap.

Korbinian von Obazda20:12:02 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

It's definitely on the roadmap.

Fantastic to hear! Looking forward to that moment.

Bk 13 [$JNT]21:10:37 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yazan15

It's definitely on the roadmap.

Great! Maybe when all J-products have enough use and volume for be reconized by mass as a place to buy crypto ( fiat gate ..)

Ala Haddad21:28:58 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Can anyone suggest good crypto newsletters?

Wiingy21:33:21 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Pomp's is pretty good. Marty Bent has one as well. I like Marty's very bitcoin maximalist focused

Ala Haddad21:37:00 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

wiingy

Pomp's is pretty good. Marty Bent has one as well. I like Marty's, very bitcoin maximalist focused

Haven't heard of Marty before, I'll check it out, thanks

Wiingy21:39:59 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yeah he covers a range of things, today's newsletter was about "the potential usurpation of the petrodollar" and the need for an "apolitical currency", where bitcoin could fill this stop

Wiingy21:41:19 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

He does a podcast as well, Tales from the Crypt. Including a weekly news podcast summing up the big news in the sector

Philippe van Sternberg21:58:22 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The SEC has again postponed the decision on the VanEck SolidX Bitcoin ETF to 29 February 2019... Bakkt has also been postponed to 2019, so there is no hope and reason for bulls to maintain the current price level. The hopes for a bullish Christmas and new ATH in 2018 are now finally off the table. Let's see when the last permanent bulls change their price forecast for Bitcoin from $15k or even $25k to $3k. I really feel sorry for those who listened to these people and fell for it...

Kishore22:40:30 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

In all honesty any Project should be off the BTC or ETH dominance , I still dont understand how it can be pegged against BTC, its fundamentally flawed , just because BTC is early in the market ? just because every exchange has a BTC pair associated with it and they risk manage it against BTC first? Only way this can change is projects like Jibrel with real usecase and with institutional usage , lets take it as a challenge and work on it.

Jimmy RUssle22:46:00 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jibrel needs their own Fiat onramps that are out of the control of the exchanges. That's been in the works since day one. Arbitrage bots (and reatil investors) always dump when btc dumps. If we had an asset backed token JNT would be pumping right now.

Jimmy22:53:55 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Those are indeed very important years, especially 2020, because I will retire there.

Congrats!🎉🎊🍾

Jimmy22:55:42 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

What do you guys think the next trend is, 2017 was icos, 2018 was stablecoins, 2019??

2019 will be the year of regulations, custodies and mainstream adoption. Between late 2019 - early 2021 will be when digital assets will become a brand new asset class right alongside stocks, bonds, real estates, commodities etc...

Jimmy23:01:51 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

A little history about how entirely new industry and technological advancements changes the way the humanity on a global scale... It was Sir Tim Berners-Lee that created the World Wide Web as we know today. He is considered the Father of the World Wide Web. However in back in those days the World Wide Web there was a lot of bad actors using the World Wide Web. Regulations had to happen to weed out the bad actors. However, over regulations would have stifled innovations and technological advancement. Thanks to President Clinton’s belief that we should not “regulate the internet like a public utility. President Clinton back in 1996 took a they a high-tech Hippocratic oath approach: First, do no harm (to the Internet). Clinton introduced 5 Principles for Internet Policy that remain the Perfect Paradigm. First, “the private sector should lead. The Internet should develop as a market driven arena not a regulated industry,” the Framework recommended. “Even where collective action is necessary, governments should encourage industry self-regulation and private sector leadership where possible.” Second, “governments should avoid undue restrictions on electronic commerce” and “parties should be able to enter into legitimate agreements to buy and sell products and services across the Internet with minimal government involvement or intervention.” It would be hard to articulate a more pro-capitalist recommendation than that but, better yet, the Framework continued on to note that “governments should refrain from imposing new and unnecessary regulations, bureaucratic procedures or new taxes and tariffs on commercial activities that take place via the Internet.”

Jimmy23:02:33 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Third, “where governmental involvement is needed,” the Framework continued, “its aim should be to support and enforce a predictable, minimalist, consistent and simple legal environment for commerce.” This is where the Framework ventured into somewhat more controversial territory by trying to deal with sticky intellectual property, privacy, and security issues. These remain hotly-contested issues today but the Framework offered a generally constructive, “light-touch” approach to dealing with those matters. Fourth, the Framework noted that “governments should recognize the unique qualities of the Internet” and appreciate “its decentralized nature and… tradition of bottom-up governance.” Because “the regulatory frameworks established over the past 60 years for telecommunication, radio and television may not fit the Internet” the Framework recommended that “existing laws and regulations that may hinder electronic commerce should be reviewed and revised or eliminated to reflect the needs of the new electronic age.” Regrettably, we’re still trying to clean up that old analog era mess to ensure that archaic rules don’t smother online speech and commerce. Fifth and finally, the Framework argued that “electronic commerce on the Internet should be facilitated on a global basis” because “the Internet is a global marketplace” and “the legal framework supporting commercial transactions should be consistent and predictable regardless of the jurisdiction in which a particular buyer and seller reside.” If he were to take a different approach and over regulated we may not have the World Wide Web that we have today, the world as we know it today would be completely different. Image how life would be without the World Wide Web. Through the internet of information/data, the world is completely different. Jerry Yang may not had the opportunity to start yahoo. Larry Page may not have founded google. Steve Job may not have founded Apple. Jack Ma may not have the opportunity to be exposed to the internet durning his stay here in the United States and went back to China to start Alibaba, which lifted tens of millions of people out of poverty and brought China into the global commerce market. Without the Internet of Information we may not be here on telegram, we may not have Blockchain technology nor would be have crypto currencies. Satoshi would not the chance to create Bitcoin which lead to other crypto currencies over the last 8 years. Vitalik, a Russian-Canadian programmer would not have founded Ethereum, he may simply be a unknown person living a normal life.

Korbinian von Obazda23:06:56 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

An ongoing process. Great Text and informations, many thanks. H. M.

Jimmy23:10:17 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

KorbiC

An ongoing process. Great Text and informations, many thanks. H. M.

Let’s work together as a community to help support Jibrel in their vision to be an dominant player in the MENA regions and possible around the globe.. Foster a warm, inviting and educational environment and experience here in telegram. This is the best way to grow our community...

Korbinian von Obazda23:12:48 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

I agree, sharing knowledge is a very important start, I'm sure it's going to lead to a great community

Jimmy23:18:22 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

KorbiC

I agree, sharing knowledge is a very important start, I'm sure it's going to lead to a great community

Indeed.. we are all a part of this journey...

Ala Haddad23:18:47 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Great info @Jp1818 , the Jibrel community is lucky to have you here!

Ala Haddad23:19:44 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jp1818

We're working on new content and material that will support education and spread awareness of the possibilities of Jibrel's expansion, and we're looking forward to sharing all the work with the community

Jimmy23:19:50 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Great info @Jp1818 , the Jibrel community is lucky to have you here!

Thank you for your kind words Ala. I’m very excited that I happen to find out about Jibrel Network a week ago from twitter...

Jimmy23:20:13 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Awesome! Looking forward to this... 👍

Philippe van Sternberg23:23:51 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

KorbiC

An ongoing process. Great Text and informations, many thanks. H. M.

Who is H. M.?? I only know one H. M.? The obe and only H. M. Are we talking about the same person? ... this is a very serious topic ... please tell me more

Philippe van Sternberg23:28:01 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Thank you “Jimmy” for sharing this internet story 👍

Korbinian von Obazda23:30:03 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Who is H. M.?? I only know one H. M.? The one and only H. M. Are we talking about the same person? ... this is a very serious topic ... please tell me more

I think J. is our favorite guy H. M., but top secret as usual Mr. Starnberg

Korbinian von Obazda23:30:09 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Sternberg

Jimmy23:30:37 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Thank you “Jimmy” for sharing this internet story 👍

🙌 🙌 🙌

Philippe van Sternberg23:38:54 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

The SEC has again postponed the decision on the VanEck SolidX Bitcoin ETF to 29 February 2019... Bakkt has also been postponed to 2019, so there is no hope and reason for bulls to maintain the current price level. The hopes for a bullish Christmas and new ATH in 2018 are now finally off the table. Let's see when the last perma bulls change their price forecast for Bitcoin from $15k or even $25k to $3k. I really feel sorry for those who listened to these people and fell for it...

and here comes the dump...

Philippe van Sternberg23:39:14 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ouch

Korbinian von Obazda23:41:03 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Life live

jRunningRabbit23:41:13 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Article highlights the perils of keeping funds in crypto after the ICO

jRunningRabbit23:41:13 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-12-06/crypto-market-crash-is-causing-startups-to-shutter-operations

Korbinian von Obazda23:41:45 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Lol at ETH

Pogues23:41:58 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

jRunningRabbit

https://www.bloomberg.com/amp/news/articles/2018-12-06/crypto-market-crash-is-causing-startups-to-shutter-operations

All the more reason to be thankful for Yaz's and Tal's foresight during ICO

Korbinian von Obazda23:42:12 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yes!

Korbinian von Obazda23:42:30 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Only Project I got that comfy feeling

Korbinian von Obazda23:43:01 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Heard many kept ETH and now got big problems

Pogues23:43:24 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yep, most companies did I presume

Korbinian von Obazda23:43:31 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yes I do too

Pogues23:44:10 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I wonder how further we will fall though. Trying to time more buys rigjt

Korbinian von Obazda23:45:01 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I just buy each month a bit no matter what, better take the chance then cry later

Korbinian von Obazda23:45:46 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I still believe the Market will be massive ones most gets solved

Pogues23:47:21 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

As do I. I'm comfortable now to where if things take off, I'm content. If things fall further , gonna try to get enough to become a liquidty provider

Korbinian von Obazda23:47:47 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

As do I. I'm comfortable now to where if things take off, I'm content. If things fall further , gonna try to get enough to become a liquidty provider

Same mindset

Frank Stanley23:50:05 - 06 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

As do I. I'm comfortable now to where if things take off, I'm content. If things fall further , gonna try to get enough to become a liquidty provider

Gratz - you made it.

Philippe van Sternberg00:00:05 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

the storm is already here .. look at BTC chart ... no way this is gonna end well

I tried several times to warn you because I like Jibrel, Jibrel group and Jibrel group members but I cannot do more for you..

Korbinian von Obazda00:03:26 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

I tried several times to warn you because I like Jibrel, Jibrel group and Jibrel group members but I cannot do more for you..

Luckily for now it's acceptable for me but top 100 gets destroyed hardly

Korbinian von Obazda00:03:36 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But I'm sure it is not over too

Philippe van Sternberg00:08:18 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

I wonder how further we will fall though. Trying to time more buys right

$3.5k seems to be the support for now but i really don’t know for how long it’ll hold because such a massive dump will certainly cause panic.

Korbinian von Obazda00:10:21 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

$3.5k seems to be the support for now but i really don’t know for how long it’ll hold because such a massive dump will certainly cause panic.

I think the Market can go below 100 billion as many Projects are valued to high but BTC slowly seems oversold. But temporary downturn to below 3k seems possible by now imo

Philippe van Sternberg00:10:40 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

if the support doesn’t hold it’s likely that we’ll see btc@$3k

Philippe van Sternberg00:10:43 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

yes

Pogues00:10:51 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

$3.5k seems to be the support for now but i really don’t know for how long it’ll hold because such a massive dump will certainly cause panic.

For the sake of opportunity, I wouldnt mind it falling further to accumulate more as I think Q2 and Q3 will be big for crypto overall. I can see how that could I sight panic though

Korbinian von Obazda00:11:32 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

For the sake of opportunity, I wouldnt mind it falling further to accumulate more as I think Q2 and Q3 in 2019 will be big for crypto overall. I can see how that could I sight panic though

Agree. I'm happy to use the panic for some nice chances

Korbinian von Obazda00:12:20 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

$3.5k seems to be the support for now but i really don’t know for how long it’ll hold because such a massive dump will certainly cause panic.

3.5 broke already lol

Jimmy RUssle00:20:41 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The team could buy back all the ETH sold during the ICO, refund all investors, and still have 90% of thier money left

Bk 13 [$JNT]00:22:22 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jimmy RUssle

The team could buy back all the ETH sold during the ICO, refund all investors, and still have 90% of thier money left

😅😅

Jeas00:26:17 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

When it was just listed in December,

Mahid00:37:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

How you guys feel about the upcoming DAG stable coins?

Mahid00:37:26 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

A lot faster than ETH

Mahid00:37:33 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

That's pretty direct competition with JNT

Korbinian von Obazda00:37:41 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Korbinian von Obazda00:37:49 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

As fast as Eos? :D

Mahid00:37:58 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

NOS

Mahid00:38:04 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

As fast as Nano

Korbinian von Obazda00:38:25 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I think should not make any problems

Mahid00:38:51 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

🤔

Korbinian von Obazda00:39:57 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Just relax

Korbinian von Obazda00:40:01 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

All good

daysandbox_bot01:10:07 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Tim01:47:12 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

What do you guys think the next trend is, 2017 was icos, 2018 was stablecoins, 2019??

STOs

Jimmy02:37:58 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

kishorerv

Agree... Alts need to decoupe from Bitcoin. It’s already happening.

lin Wang03:46:33 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Does the monthly newspaper come out today?

Channel_Bot03:47:56 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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lin Wang04:00:24 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Does the monthly newspaper come out today?

Howard04:27:25 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

lin Wang

Does the monthly newspaper come out today?

tomorrow

Korbinian von Obazda04:31:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Fantastic!

성김

성규 김04:55:13 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The time difference sucks! I expected to be able to read monthly report tho

lin Wang04:59:15 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Which country time shall prevail?

nikola05:18:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

lin Wang

Which country time shall prevail?

EST

Kevin Costner05:45:51 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What happen to jibrel

Kevin Costner05:45:54 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Wheres Jusd

Kevin Costner05:46:03 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Jibreled

Dale Wallace05:50:00 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Kevin Costner

What happen to jibrel

https://jcash.network/proof-of-solvency

MB06:38:00 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Mahid

How you guys feel about the upcoming DAG stable coins?

I would feel something if there were any

MB06:43:05 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Update day, best day

Ritz06:50:23 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://www.whatsapp-greetings.tk/?m=1

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Christian Hu07:50:00 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Mahid

That's pretty direct competition with JNT

do they have any use cases, partnerships or client pilots? Do they also come in six currencies and provide onchain proof of solvency? can I build financial products on top of them? Do they comply to regulations and have a banking license?

Christian Hu07:50:14 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

of course they don’t. None of them do

Channel_Bot09:32:20 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

**Dear participants of our project. ❗️Important information. ⚠️In connection with the fall in the rate of Ethereum, we added our tokens to the EthNew exchange. Here you can sell your tokens 300% more expensive, it will help you get a plus. The number of tokens at a high price is limited. EthNew:** http://clc.la/L1u3_A

daysandbox_bot09:32:20 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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XYZ09:59:38 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

when monthly review @arhadd ?

Talal Tabbaa09:59:51 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

XYZ991

when monthly review @arhadd ?

we'll post it today :)

Talal Tabbaa09:59:54 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

NYC time

Bk 13 [$JNT]10:02:44 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Tuned

Bk 13 [$JNT]10:04:10 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

NYC time

Sorry but what time?

XYZ10:05:27 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

ttabbaa

NYC time

evening?

lin Wang10:06:39 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Are there any reports?

Björn10:07:18 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

lin Wang

Are there any reports?

It will come later today.

Ballast10:33:28 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Why do you need to know exact time. Just wait

Ala Haddad13:23:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey guys, should be out by the end of the workday :)

daysandbox_bot13:32:57 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Channel_Bot13:32:57 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

**⚠️Dear participants of our project. Important information. 💢 In connection with the fall in the rate of Ethereum, we added our tokens to the EthNew exchange. Here you can sell your tokens 300% more expensive, it will help you get a plus. The number of tokens at a high price is limited. ✔️ Link EthNew:** http://clc.la/uVoD4Q

Tim13:34:47 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Hey guys, should be out by the end of the workday :)

We appreciate the update.

Ferdinando14:57:49 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Hey guys, should be out by the end of the workday :)

in which time zone? 😉

Jiri14:58:39 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

New York

MB15:15:10 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Probably still around 4-5 hours to go

Tim15:16:16 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Probably still around 4-5 hours to go

It's 10:15 on the east coast. Might be a bit longer than that.

Michel15:40:12 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Y’all need to chill it’ll be out today

Björn15:43:26 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Soon...

Tim15:53:23 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Michelbakk

Y’all need to chill it’ll be out today

It's going to end in everyone over hyping a monthly update, it won't contain the ground breaking information they overhyped to themselves, and they'll likely be disappointed. I'm just always happy to see Jibrel making progress.

Pogues15:55:01 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Cnumartyr

Preach

Jimmy RUssle15:55:56 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Cnumartyr

This

Pogues15:56:04 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Cnumartyr

Usually the more vital information comes from non-monthly updates anyways

Tim15:56:33 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

nunyadamnbusiness

Usually the more vital information comes from non-monthly updates anyways

Hopefully it'll have some rehashed and more in depth info about the work they did with Al Hilal Bank.

Ala Haddad16:16:35 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

The update will cover all of last month's activities 🙂

Ala Haddad16:19:33 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Pengo1969

in which time zone? 😉

Seeing as Jibrel expands accross many geographies, the workday doesn't really end 😉 but the update is coming out of NYC

Korbinian von Obazda17:58:35 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

The update will cover all of last month's activities 🙂

Really looking forward, sounds like a fantastic read!

dav l18:10:01 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

dav l: xdag is good. xdag＝ btc with dag

Ala Haddad18:15:19 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Interesting new technology, scaling and adoption still a big challenge

Ala Haddad18:15:40 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

What

QuanBot18:32:13 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Most exciting Distributed Ledger Technology? ▪️ 0% Blockchain ▫️ 0% Directed Acyclic Graph (DAG) ▪️ 0% Hashgraphs 👥 0 - gross votes

Channel_Bot18:33:10 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

**💢Dear participants. ⚠️ Due to the low ethereum rate, EthNEw Exchange distributes ETH coins for free. You can get from 0.1 to 15 ETH coins for free. To receive coins, go to the exchange and you will automatically receive coins. ✔️ Entry to the exchange: ** http://clc.am/ethernew

Karola18:59:31 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hi folks ... been trying to sell some JNT at forkdelta but the deposit transaction always gets reverted 😕

Ala Haddad18:59:42 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Here's a nice link to shed light on some differences for anyone who's not familiar with the terms above : https://medium.com/ibbc-io/blockchain-less-technologies-too-good-to-be-true-bc03947a66ea

Ala Haddad18:59:54 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey Karola, DM me please

Anthony19:06:24 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

"Coinbase’s goal is to offer support for all assets that meet our standards and are fully compliant with local law"

Anthony19:06:35 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://blog.coinbase.com/coinbase-continues-to-explore-support-for-new-digital-assets-92ba4ab7f465

Anthony19:06:54 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Has anyone at Jibrel attempted to get on Coinbase's radar?

Philippe van Sternberg19:17:07 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

They would not be allowed to talk about that

Philippe van Sternberg19:19:25 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But we’re not even listed by kiosk like Bithumb, Bittrex or Okex ... so you can forget about Coinbase right now

daysandbox_bot19:20:48 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

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Ala Haddad19:21:43 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Team is working with approachable exchanges with strategic value to the Jibrel vision. The frustration is understood Philippe and the team is trying to address that

Philippe van Sternberg19:46:09 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I am curious how this will be solved. A listing under the given market conditions will be extremely difficult. However, it is questionable whether this would make sense at all at the moment. Other alt coins, which are listed on all major exchanges, have fallen 20 to 30 times in value, some even more than 50 times. Jibrel only 5 times if you calculate it with the ICO price and max 12 if calculated with the ATH of $0.6. I think that we would also have experienced a stronger dump if we had been listed on larger exchanges.

Anthony19:47:57 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

But we’re not even listed by kiosk like Bithumb, Bittrex or Okex ... so you can forget about Coinbase right now

Why approach exchanges that require bribes for listings when they could approach something legitimate like coinbase?

Ala Haddad19:48:16 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Unfortunately I can't personally comment on exchanges and market conditions. Thank you for your insight nontheless. Team will take this into consideration.

Anthony19:48:22 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Though I heard somewhat bittrex is legit and doesn't require bribes for listings?

Ala Haddad19:48:58 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

JackBacon

Though I heard somewhat bittrex is legit and doesn't require bribes for listings?

https://www.coindesk.com/bittrex-outlines-token-listing-criteria/

Philippe van Sternberg19:57:43 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

JackBacon

Why approach exchanges that require bribes for listings when they could approach something legitimate like coinbase?

Coinbase would never list tokens with such a low volume to protect their users. In addition, they are only interested in coins with large trading volume and a high level of awareness, because a higher trading volume would result in higher trading fees for the exchange.

Anthony20:13:13 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Didn't coinbase just list like 4 tokens that are basically shitcoins? Did they all have large volume and awareness?

Anthony20:13:37 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

They are going to list dmarket with its mspaint logo, right?

tokenomics_20:25:04 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Guys I've heard there's been unprecedented expenditures on inflatable bouncy castles... How can jibrel foundation stay solvent!?

Ala Haddad20:25:45 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hey, please don't spread fake news 🙂

Philippe van Sternberg20:41:17 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Could you please name the 4 tokens and provide the source stating that Dmarket will be listet on Coinbase? Thanks

Anthony20:48:01 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

Could you please name the 4 tokens and provide the source stating that Dmarket will be listet on Coinbase? Thanks

https://mobile.twitter.com/CoinbasePro/status/1071102175051304960

Anthony20:49:16 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Was a $6m-ish market cap token

Anthony20:49:23 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Less than $1m volume...

Anthony20:50:29 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

That's their Twitter, right?

Anthony20:51:25 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Unless it's a fake account or their Twitter got hacked, Coinbase is officially open to listing some .... Unexpected stuff.

Philippe van Sternberg20:54:50 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

True, but all of them have a trading volume of at least $2M. And they are already listed on mayor exchanges like Binance, Bittrex, Huobi, Okex, Poloniex and Bithumb ..

Philippe van Sternberg20:55:56 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Yesterday we had a daily trading volume of under $30k

MB21:04:02 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Staying awake to catch the update, cheers everyone else not sleeping through this one

Ala Haddad21:04:53 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Staying awake to catch the update, cheers everyone else not sleeping through this one

Which timezone are you in?

Tim21:04:59 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Staying awake to catch the update, cheers everyone else not sleeping through this one

Luckily I live on the east coast, so it'll come out when I head out for dinner anyway.

Philippe van Sternberg21:05:18 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I’ve been up for two days now not to miss the update

MB21:06:58 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

arhadd

Which timezone are you in?

UTC +2,it's still 11 pm but I expect there's still some waiting ahead

Philippe van Sternberg21:37:52 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Well, I always listen to classical music when I place my short sell orders and wait for the market to fall. You could listen to it while waiting for the update:

Philippe van Sternberg21:37:55 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/ho9rZjlsyYY

Philippe van Sternberg21:38:20 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

But that’s not everybody’s taste

Youenn21:41:27 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

That's ok but I prefer listening Depeche mode

Philippe van Sternberg21:45:05 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

That’s a good thing too and for those who prefer it quieter:

Philippe van Sternberg21:45:10 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://youtu.be/S-Xm7s9eGxU

성김

성규 김21:45:59 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Oh it wasnt released yet

Philippe van Sternberg21:47:44 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

I usually listen to it after my take profit orders get triggered

Philippe van Sternberg21:51:51 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

성규 김

Oh it wasnt released yet

No, but luckily, you can listen to the music in the meantime

성김

성규 김21:52:25 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hahaha sure. 6:52 in the morning

Alez21:52:34 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Wtf

성김

성규 김21:52:37 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Good time to study Englis too

Alez21:52:48 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

WHETE IS THE OFFICAL GROUP

Korbinian von Obazda22:00:49 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Philippe van Sternberg

https://youtu.be/S-Xm7s9eGxU

Good taste Mr. Philippe

Philippe van Sternberg22:02:10 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hvzzy

WHETE IS THE OFFICAL GROUP

Sir, I don’t inderstand. THIS is official Jibrel Network Telegram group!

Alez22:02:32 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Okay then ill ask here

Alez22:02:35 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

How the fuck

Alez22:02:46 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Dowe a coin get delisted from kucoin

Philippe van Sternberg22:02:48 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

KorbiC

Good taste Mr. Philippe

Thank you, Mr. Korbinian von Obazda

Alez22:02:52 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Does*

Alez22:03:10 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

We are litterally less than 10cents

Alez22:03:21 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

And our peak was 65cents

Alez22:03:25 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Absolute harm

Alez22:03:29 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Haram*

Anna Bordunova22:04:35 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

https://medium.com/@jibrelnetwork/jibrel-november-update-617ec7b174d3

Philippe van Sternberg22:04:41 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hvzzy

How the fuck

Due to less trading volume

Björn22:04:54 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Nice.

Philippe van Sternberg22:05:04 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Hello Anna

Alez22:05:13 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Alez22:05:34 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

So now you're telling me we are fucked

Alez22:05:41 - 07 Dec 2018 [UTC]

Abandon ship time

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